Palace goal wrongly disallowed

[Deathy]

It hit the back of the net, came straight back out and disallowed.

Warnock going ape. Worse than Reading's he says, lol. Wants year bans for all four officials.

Jordan blaming Bristol City for "cheating" as they didn't speak up.

Hearty LOL.

[PEARCEY]

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

[silas]

What an arrogant oxf*rd Warnock is, blaming Bristol City for bad sportsmanship and then refusing to shake the hands of any City players or staff after the game, and putting all the blame on them!

Apparantly there are rumours it was ruled out for a push as well. Massive LOL if thats true!

[woodley_royal_124]

but theres so much at stake...............

[Deathy]

What an arrogant oxf*rd Warnock is, blaming Bristol City for bad sportsmanship and then refusing to shake the hands of any City players or staff after the game, and putting all the blame on them!

Apparantly there are rumours it was ruled out for a push as well. Massive LOL if thats true!

I don't buy that rumour. The ref would surely tell the protesting players and coaching staff that when it all kicked off.

[Shaka]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywdYMsYfJg0

[Deathy]

It's ridiculous that we still don't use goal line technology. It would hold the game up for no more than 1 minute to check an incident like that. You don't get incidents like this every week either, so I really can't see the problem. With all the kicking off both on the pitch and Warnock having a go at the 4th official and then the Bristol City bench, the game was held up for far longer than that one minute it would take to look on a little monitor and radio to the ref.

[cmonurz]

You don't even need goal-line technology for that. Christ, half a team are not going to be screaming at the ref that the ball hit the back of the net if it didn't. In that situation a referee should be able to say 'right, I've got something wrong here, let me check a replay' - but as far as I know, referees are currently not allowed to use TV to aid decisions.

[FiNeRaIn]

What an arrogant oxf*rd Warnock is, blaming Bristol City for bad sportsmanship and then refusing to shake the hands of any City players or staff after the game, and putting all the blame on them!

We cheated at watford, bristol cheated today. When decisions are as obvious as that its upto the players to hold their hands up.

[Avon Royal]

What an arrogant oxf*rd Warnock is, blaming Bristol City for bad sportsmanship and then refusing to shake the hands of any City players or staff after the game, and putting all the blame on them!

We cheated at watford, bristol cheated today. When decisions are as obvious as that its upto the players to hold their hands up.

LOL!

So why do we need refs in the first place?

[FiNeRaIn]

Football needs to be played in spirit, people dive and bad decisions are made all the time.

Our goal at watford and palaces goal yesterday are completely obvious to the players and fans and if the officials are so incompetent they cannot see this, they deserve to be banned. That was a disgraceful decision and shame on bristol city for not stepping forward, its as good as cheating. They know they've been done by a goal there, they've seen it going in the net with no infringements, what makes them think they can just play on at 0-0?

[blade 1]

Warnock is justified in this imo.

The players/managers cant have thought it was a push (the ref would have just said that to the players)

Bristol city cheated plain and simple, it might not have been their decision but they could have done somthing about it. I wouldn't be feeling too pleased with myself this morning if i was Gary Johnson. They missed an opportunity to show that the game can still be played in the right manner.

Although i must say i felt the same way about the phantom goal against Watford. Someone at reading should have had the bottle to do the same and just let watford score.

[dean horrix legend]

Football needs to be played in spirit, people dive and bad decisions are made all the time.

Our goal at watford and palaces goal yesterday are completely obvious to the players and fans and if the officials are so incompetent they cannot see this, they deserve to be banned. That was a disgraceful decision and shame on bristol city for not stepping forward, its as good as cheating. They know they've been done by a goal there, they've seen it going in the net with no infringements, what makes them think they can just play on at 0-0?

What makes them think they can play on at 0-0?

I think the ref saying it's not a goal gives them the right to play on,the ref is the final word on the pitch,whether right or wrong.
Until football gets with the times(If it ever does) and technology is used it has to be that way.

All officials at the game are suspended until a review has taken place and Keith Hackett apologises to Neil Warnock for the disallowed goal.

[blade 1]

What makes them think they can play on at 0-0?

I think the ref saying it's not a goal gives them the right to play on,the ref is the final word on the pitch,whether right or wrong.
Until football gets with the times(If it ever does) and technology is used it has to be that way

Thats the point though.

They knew an "injustice" had occured and could have done something about it. They chose not to and prospered off an honest mistake by the officials. They could have rectified that situation if they had had the balls to do it.

I gaurantee that they would have had the respect of everyone in football if they had done so. And its not like an individual player cant do anything.

I'm sure a player (Dan De Rossi?) scored a goal unfairly with something not spotted by the ref. But he owned up to it and the ref subsequently dissallowed it. So its quite possible to play the game fairly.

[Deathy]

What makes them think they can play on at 0-0?

I think the ref saying it's not a goal gives them the right to play on,the ref is the final word on the pitch,whether right or wrong.
Until football gets with the times(If it ever does) and technology is used it has to be that way

Thats the point though.

They knew an "injustice" had occured and could have done something about it. They chose not to and prospered off an honest mistake by the officials. They could have rectified that situation if they had had the balls to do it.

Did you not hear Gary Johnson's interview on Sky Sports this morning? He perfectly and rightly explained why they carried on. The lino has flagged for an infringement. As far as Bristol City are concerned, the officials have seen something and dissalowed the goal. Johnson can't understand how anyone didn't see it was a goal, but an infringement was flagged and they didn't know why and carried on.

Don't also forget that Gary Johnson was manager of Yeovil when they let the opposition score a goal because of an unfair goal scored. Something that earned him a FIFA Fair Play award I believe.

[blade 1]

If it was for an infringement then fair play. (no doubt that is waht the refs report will subsequently say)

But I still think that the officials would have just told the players and staff of palace if that was the case. That would have certainly changed the way they reacted after the game.

The game was held up for long enough for them to find out what had happened. The palace staff all seemed to know it wasn't for an infrindgement, why would the city staff know any different.

I just think they have let themselves down on this.

[UTDSTEVE]

If it was for an infringement then fair play. (no doubt that is waht the refs report will subsequently say)

But I still think that the officials would have just told the players and staff of palace if that was the case. That would have certainly changed the way they reacted after the game.

The game was held up for long enough for them to find out what had happened. The palace staff all seemed to know it wasn't for an infrindgement, why would the city staff know any different.

I just think they have let themselves down on this.

I totally agree.

The game was re started with a goal kick, all this talk of a free kick being awaded is Just bollocks. The referee has now apologised and been suspended. It was a shocking decision and anyone in Warnocks/Palaces posistion would feel just as angry...... and righly so.

If you watch the replay the City players were all gutted at first because they knew it was a perfectly good goal. When the Ref then went over to the Lino the City players who followed him over and started pointing for a goal kick were out of order and cheating.

[Toon Toon Blue army]

Reminds me of when I was playing for my school, it was the national cup quater final and we were winning 5-4. In last couple of minutes the other team had a shot from long distance, in flew right into the net through a hole. The ref said it was over.

The other schools bench and players went mental at the decision, i just kept my head down even though i knew it went in. Had I stuck my neck out and said it was a goal we wouldn't have won.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

It's ridiculous that we still don't use goal line technology. It would hold the game up for no more than 1 minute to check an incident like that. You don't get incidents like this every week either, so I really can't see the problem. With all the kicking off both on the pitch and Warnock having a go at the 4th official and then the Bristol City bench, the game was held up for far longer than that one minute it would take to look on a little monitor and radio to the ref.

you shouldn't even need goal-line technology for something like this.

One team "scores" and the players run off celebrating, while the other teams goes through the "oh bugger" motions of having conceded. You don't need to be Colombo to realise there's one thing that doesn't add up in your assumption that the ball didn't go in.

The same applies to our "goal" at Watford last year. Other than the fact that it should have been clear to the ref that there wasn't any way a goal could have be scored at any stage of the move, the fact that both teams were playing on without anyone at all reacting as if it was a goal should sow a few seeds of doubt in the ref's mind.


What is even more remarkable, in both cases, was that the officials were the only people in the ground who got confused.

[Ian Royal]

I think a difference between our one and that is our players turned and ran back into our half assuming it was a goalkick.

Not saying we shouldn't have told the ref it didn't go in. Or that Bristol are fine keeping quiet about it going in.

In the clip you can see two Brizzle players talking to officials too. If they are saying it wasn't a goal. They should be ashamed. If they are saying it was a goal then hats off to them. Because very very few players would do that. And it would be a minor miracle for a ref to change his mind.