Referee rescinds red card during game

[Stuffed Crust Pizza]

Yesterday evening the local youth team that I coach had a top of the table clash against local rivals. I, as per norm, took on the unenvious task of Referee's Assistant. With our lads 2-1 up the referee awarded a penalty after a calamatous mix-up between our goalkeeper and centreback found the opponents striker with the ball at his feet just inside the penalty box. In a matter of a millisecond our goalkeeper kicked the striker without taking the ball at the same time as our centreback took the ball cleanly from the striker's feet and cleared the ball the safety.

The Ref then blew for a penalty and in the following melee that ensued, sent off our goalkeeper for denying a goalscoring opportunity. While all this was going on I was discussing the incident with the oppositions manager and coach and we were all in agreement that it was not a sending off offence as the centreback was covering the goal, he was clearly between the striker and the goal. When the Ref had finished dealing with the incident I asked why he had not come to consult me as I had a superior view of the incident. After a short conversation in which the Ref was happy to hear my view of the incident, he decided to rescind the red card and allow our keeper back onto the pitch.

Is there any previous evidence of this sort of incident being seen in the professional game? I think it takes a big man to admit his mistake and stand corrected, so fair play to the Ref (incidentally one of the better ones we've had this season).

We went on to win the game against our local rivals 3-2. Securing at least a second place finish at their expense. There were no complaints from the opposition team, officials or supporters so I felt the decision was justified. It's a funny ol' game!

[Messiah]

Fair play to him for being big enough to change his decision, but just because there was one defender between the striker and the goal, isn't that still a goal scoring opportunity?

[Row Z Royal]

Fair play to him for being big enough to change his decision, but just because there was one defender between the striker and the goal, isn't that still a goal scoring opportunity?

Indeed. If it had been the last defender with the 'keeper in goal it probably still would have been a red.




Anyway, Dan19 will definitely be able to contribute to this thread!

[paultheroyal]

As club linesman you should only be giving ball in and out of play and advising on offside.

Poor decision by the ref.

[Row Z Royal]

As club linesman you should only be giving ball in and out of play and advising on offside.

Poor decision by the ref.

Hobnob FC need a ref for next Sunday (25th). Fancy it?

[Wax Jacket]

As club linesman you should only be giving ball in and out of play and advising on offside.

Poor decision by the ref.

pfff where's your spirit of the game

[SpaceCruiser]

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[Stuffed Crust Pizza]

As club linesman you should only be giving ball in and out of play and advising on offside.

Poor decision by the ref.

Prior to the game the Ref had asked me signal for any fouls that were commited in my corner and on his blindside, so you're incorrect. The Referee approached me and asked for my opinion of the incident, which I gave. The oppostion manager had aslo begged for the red card to be recinded as it was obviously harsh.

I wasn't asking for people's opinions on the incident as I doubt any of you were present. I was merely asking if this has ever been seen in the pro game.

[Victor Meldrew]

I don't recall ever seeing this in a professional game but all credit to the ref for being big enough to change his mind.
One thought though why was there a melee?
Hopefully you don't get your boys to do a Chelsea or Man United and surround the referee querying his decisions.

[paultheroyal]

Never changed any of my decisions, the old saying about "even things out" may of cropped up once in a while though"

Was not criticising the orginator poster, but i would say that it is very rare and unusual for a referee to ask for fouls anywhere on the pitch particularly in and around the box.

In my time of refereeing, from Sunday morning, through to the Conference and Premier League etc, the most problematic thing which causes most of the problems is club linesman!!

[Stuffed Crust Pizza]

I don't recall ever seeing this in a professional game but all credit to the ref for being big enough to change his mind.
One thought though why was there a melee?
Hopefully you don't get your boys to do a Chelsea or Man United and surround the referee querying his decisions.

We work long and hard to adjust the way our boys react to poor decisions. However this task is made all the more difficult thanks to the disgraceful way "professionals" react to refereeing decisions. Young lads such as ours see this week in, week out on TV and in the stadiums and we (the voluntary coaches) are left to educate the youngsters against such disgusting actions. Whilst we work tirelessly to prevent such outbursts I'm not foolish enough to say that the lads frustations don't ever boil over, but I'm pleased to report that such melees are a rarity in our league.

Perhaps Drogba, Terry, Rooney et all would think twice about surrounding a Ref next time a decision went against them if they saw the effect its having on youth football all over the UK.

[Stuffed Crust Pizza]

Never changed any of my decisions, the old saying about "even things out" may of cropped up once in a while though"

Was not criticising the orginator poster, but i would say that it is very rare and unusual for a referee to ask for fouls anywhere on the pitch particularly in and around the box.

In my time of refereeing, from Sunday morning, through to the Conference and Premier League etc, the most problematic thing which causes most of the problems is club linesman!!

In the defence of club linesman I must say after undertaking this unthankful task for the whole season over the 20-odd game we have played, most of my opposite numbers have been fair and well informed of the rules. Only once have I come up against a club linesman being blatently biased towards his own team, confirmed by the smug look he gave our bench everytime he made a contentious offside decision.

I'm not saying that they are not a problem, just making note that thankfully in our league most volunteers are mature and honest enough to do a decent job.

[Tony Le Mesmer]

Fouling a player who is through on goal with only an outfiled player to beat is a clearer goalscoring opportunity than a normal 1 on 1.

So a stonewall Red Card. Terrible decision.

[Ian Royal]

I think the key bit here surely is whether the defender was favourite for the ball and cleared it regardless of what the keeper did, or whether the defender only cleared it because the keeper took the striker out.

One isn't a clear goalscoring chance or a red, and the other is both.

You'll never see a professional official rescind a card during a match because it's admitting a mistake and like politicians officials will never admit that until after the event and it no longer matters. If then.

[Sun Tzu]

I've kind of seen it in the pro game although only when the ref has accidently shown the red, meaning to show the yellow. When he's realised he's called the player back and shown the right card !

Hard to comment on the game but sounds like the ref got it wrong according to the laws. I'd also agree he should never have allowed a club linesman to have any input to such a major decision, if he was being assessed he would be slaughtered for it I suspect. Apart from anything else he lays himself open to the other linesman flagging away for all sorts for the rest of the game and then getting wound up if he is ignored.