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[Four Of Clubs]

... and here are the results involving 'local' NL teams from today ....

CONFS
Basingstoke 1-0 Woking
Maidenhead Utd v Farnborough - Postponed – pitch passed fit at 10:00. 4 hours of sunshine later @ approx 14:10, Match referee announces pitch unplayable – Red faces all round at York Rd!
St Albans 1-1 Bromley
Welling 4-1 Staines Town

ISTH1S
Fleet Town 1-0 Corinthian Casuals

SOUTHP
Chesham United 2-0 Stourbridge
Didcot Town 1-1 Chippenham Town
Halesowen Town 2-2 Windsor & Eton
SOUTH1C
Burnham 2-1 Woodford United
Slough Town 1-1 Hitchin Town
Soham Town Rangers 1-2 Marlow
SOUTH1S&W
Cinderford Town 3-2 Abingdon Utd
Hungerford Town 1-0 Taunton Town
Thatcham Town 3-4 Mangotsfield United

COCOP
Chertsey Town 1-2 Molesey
Mole Valley SCR 3-0 Sandhurst Town
COCO1
Farnham Town 2-0 Chobham
Lemon Recordings Division One Challenge Cup – 3rd Round
Eversley 0-1 Bedfont Sports

HELLP
Ardley Utd 2-1 Shortwood Utd
Fairford Town 0-6 Binfield
Kidlington 4-1 Reading Town att:107
Shrivenham 6-1 Pegasus Juniors
Slimbridge 2-2 Ascot United
Thame United 1-0 Flackwell Heath att: 233
HELL1E
Holyport 5-2 South Kilburn
Newbury 2-3 Henley Town
B&B Intermediate Cup
Woodley Town 9-1 Binfield Reserves

WESSP
Alton Town 5-0 Fawley

[AthleticoSpizz]

Thnx FoC

Binfield flying (have a work colleague who plays for them)

Credit to the financially beleagured W&E (thought they were dead and buried a month or so ago) ..2-2 at Halesowen (Caskey's old team)

[Royal Rother]

Should have buried them.

[Four Of Clubs]

... here's tomorrow's options for anyone wanting some 'local' (and not so local) NL football - I've included the FA Trophy 2nd Round in entirety.

... be warned - its a bit soggy out there so a fair number could be off by tomorrow PM. I might update if I have the time/inclination......

FA Trophy 2nd Round
AFC Telford v Eastwood Town
AFC Wimbledon v Woking
Alfreton Town v Cambridge Utd
Ashford Town (Middx) v Dartford
Blyth Spartans v Altrincham
Boston Utd v Gloucester
Chasetown v Grimsby
Darlington v Bath City
Dorchester v Eastbourne Boro
Droylsden v Ebbsfleet United
Eastleigh v Worcester
Gateshead v Hampton & Richmond
Guiseley v Stalybridge
Luton v Uxbridge
Mansfield v Newport County
Salisbury v Wrexham

CONFS
Boreham Wood v Chelmsford
Braintree Town v Lewes
Bromley v Basingstoke
Farnborough v Dover
Staines Town v Bishop's Stortford
Thurrock v Welling
Weston-S-Mare v Havant and W
No Game for Maidenhead this w/e - visit H&R next Tuesday (18th)

ISTH1S
Bognor Regis v Fleet Town
Godalming Town v Whitstable

SOUTHP
Banbury United v Didcot Town
Windsor & Eton v Brackley Town
SOUTH1C
Beaconsfield SYCOB v Rugby Town
Bedfont Town v Burnham
Marlow v Slough Town
SOUTH1S&W
Abingdon United v Stourport Swifts
Andover v Cinderford Town
Bishops Cleeve v Hungerford Town
No game for Thatcham

COCOP
Ash United v Horley Town
Chertsey Town v Epsom & Ewell
Chessington & Hook United v Sandhurst Town
Colliers Wood United PP Cove
Croydon v Camberley Town
Guildford City v Mole Valley SCR
COCO1 - UPDATE : few minor alterations
14:00 Chobham v Staines Lammas
Cobham v Frimley Green
Farnborough North End v Eversley - (@ Eversley FC)
Hartley Wintney v Hayes Gate
14:00 Knaphill PP Bedfont Sports
14:00 Sheerwater v Westfield
Warlingham v Farnham Town (@ Whyteleafe FC)

HELLP
Binfield v Kidlington - away side are 2nd and beat the league leaders (Ardley - who don't have a game on Sat) 2-1 in midweek.
Bracknell Town v Reading Town - I watched RTFC lose 1-0 at Thame's new 'stadium' on Tue - they were very poor - but Thame didn't exactly have much about them either - other than an NL equivalent of Crouch
Fairford Town v Ascot United
Flackwell Heath v Shrivenham
Old Woodstock Town v Wantage Town
Shortwood United v Wokingham & Emmbrook
Witney United v Slimbridge
Wootton Bassett Town v Thame United

HELL1E
Chinnor v Chalfont Wasps
Didcot Town Reserves v Holyport
Finchampstead v Milton United
B&B Intermediate Round 4
14:00 Woodley Town v P&IC Utd
No games for Newbury nor Henley

WESS1
Fleet Spurs v Warminster Town
Tadley Calleva v Horndean

Current plan is to attempt the anti-clockwise M25 and go for ISTHMIAN 1 South: Faversham vs Whitehawk - I'm told the food is good there - so my daughter will be pleased!

[Wax Jacket]

interesting you say Godalming are 'local', I'd have thought Ashford T (M) were closer. still, not a criticism, this is a top top thread thanks to you

oh and what's the new Thame ground like?

[Four Of Clubs]

interesting you say Godalming are 'local', I'd have thought Ashford T (M) were closer. still, not a criticism, this is a top top thread thanks to you

oh and what's the new Thame ground like?

...fair point I s'pose - I try to limit my 'local' p/review to outside the M25 but do occasionally feature Staines - cos I think there is or was the odd 'Massive' member on here - so I could just as easily include Ashford Town (Mx).

I leave H&R in too for the benefit of Tredder (though I doubt if he'll want to be reminded of their result from the Trophy today!)

- trouble is there are quite a few NL clubs in and around that area - Godalming, I think, is roughly the same distance away from RG1 in a straight line but from experience is actually a bit of git to drive to - got horribly lost in Guildford looking for the road to the SW.


For those interested in these sort of things there's a fair bit of puff about the new Thame Stadium and what they've built via their new clubsite :

http://www.thamefootball.co.uk/site-progress/

Seems to get rave reviews for the playing surface - I liked the ground - easy location on the Northern edge of the Town but I did think the bar was bit small for a new complex - they may have scope to expand it.
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... and here's today's results:

FA Trophy 2nd Round
AFC Telford United 1 - 0 Eastwood Town
AFC Wimbledon 2 - 3 Woking
Alfreton Town 3 - 3 Cambridge United
Ashford Town (Middx) 0 - 1 Dartford
Blyth Spartans AFC 2 - 1 Altrincham
Boston United 0 - 1 Gloucester City
Chasetown 2 - 1 Grimsby Town
Darlington 4 - 1 Bath City
Dorchester Town 3 - 3 Eastbourne Borough
Droylsden 1 - 0 Ebbsfleet United
Eastleigh 3 - 3 Worcester City
Gateshead 6 - 0 Hampton & Richmond Borough
Guiseley AFC 2 - 1 Stalybridge Celtic
Luton Town 4 - 0 Uxbridge
Mansfield Town 4 - 2 Newport County
Salisbury City 1 - 0 Wrexham

CONFS
Boreham Wood 2-0 Chelmsford
Braintree Town 1-0 Lewes
Bromley 0-1 Basingstoke
Farnborough 4-1 Dover
Staines Town 3-0 Bishop's Stortford
Thurrock 2-1 Welling
Weston-S-Mare 1-1 Havant and W

ISTH1S
Bognor Regis 5-0 Fleet Town
Godalming Town 2-1 Whitstable
Leaders Met Police beaten 0-3 @ Horsham YMCA
2nd place Whitehawk lose 1-2 @ Faversham: which was where I went - The 'Shepherd Neame Stadium' was not a bad ground for STEP04, if a bit 'pre-fab'. Home side upset their higher placed visitors. Co-incidentally both clubs were promoted to this level this season.
Food was cooked to order - daughter expressed approval of what was served up. Bar was spacious enough

SOUTHP
Banbury United 2-1 Didcot Town
Windsor & Eton 0-3 Brackley Town
Leaders Truro beaten 1-0 at Hednesford
SOUTH1C
Beaconsfield SYCOB 1-2 Rugby Town
Bedfont Town 2-1 Burnham
Marlow 1-4 Slough Town
SOUTH1S&W
Abingdon United 1-1 Stourport Swifts
Andover 1-2 Cinderford Town
Bishops Cleeve 1-0 Hungerford Town
Mangotsfield 3-3 North Leigh - thought I’d put this in cos ALL 6 goals were scored in the first 10’ !!

COCOP
Ash United 1-1 Horley Town
Chertsey Town 1-2 Epsom & Ewell
Croydon 0-2 Camberley Town
Guildford City 4-0 Mole Valley SCR
COCO1
Chobham 2-2 Staines Lammas
Cobham 3-2 Frimley Green
Farnborough North End 0-1 Eversley
Hartley Wintney 0-3 Hayes Gate
Sheerwater 0-1 Westfield
Warlingham 4-4 Farnham Town

HELLP
Binfield 3-0 Kidlington - very good result for the 'Moles' who seem to have renewed their push for the upper end of the table
Bracknell Town 2-2 Reading Town att 86
Fairford Town 0-4 Ascot United
Flackwell Heath 2-0 Shrivenham
Old Woodstock Town 0-2 Wantage Town
Shortwood United 5-2 Wokingham & Emmbrook
Witney United 3-3 Slimbridge
Wootton Bassett Town 0-1 Thame United

HELL1E
Chinnor 1-1 Chalfont Wasps
Didcot Town Reserves 0-1 Holyport
Finchampstead 0-5 Milton United
B&B Intermediate Round 4
Woodley Town 3-1 P&IC Utd

WESS1
Fleet Spurs 2-3 Warminster Town
Tadley Calleva 1-3 Horndean

[Wax Jacket]

Cheers FoC

[Royal Rother]

Things looking decidedly dodgy for Windsor & Eton at the moment.

The existing Chairman, Peter Simpson, has still, months on, not produced all the paperwork required by the Administrators to prepare complete and thorough documentation to support the CVA application, and he has not paid them either so, although they say they have enough to go to court for the CVA, they'll do nothing until he (Simpson) honours his commitment to pay their fee. Unfortunately Simpson's company, Lovegroves the Solicitors, (of whom I believe he was a Senior Partner) has just gone bust.... (not looking good is it?)

Meanwhile, Kevin Stott, the proposed new owner / Chairman (understandably) requires an indemnity from Simpson to cover him in the event that any further creditors come out of the woodwork.

If the CVA does go ahead we will suffer 10 points deduction which will take us close to the relegation zone and, although the players have shown commendable form / commitment over the last few months as all this shite rumbles on, the inevitable slashing of the playing budget (already happening) will make it tough to stay up.

If the CVA does not go through it'll be a start-again scenario at the bottom of the pile somewhere. Whether we would have a ground at that point I have no idea as it is supposedly in the terms of the Crown lease that, should the current club fold, the lease reverts back to the Crown... they might not exercise that but who knows...

A further complication in all this is that Simpson and Stott dislike each other with a vengeance; reason being that allegedly, (and I have heard this from a couple of sources but cannot verify its accuracy) when they were previous co-directors of Windsor and Eton a few years ago, Stott's company was in difficulties, and he took some "friendly" advice from Simpson - his company ended up going down the tubes and he (Stott) sued Simpson's firm for bad advice and won £1.2m!!! Perhaps hence them going down the tubes themselves just recently. Bad blood or what?! So although I have sat in on public meetings where Simpson has personally undertaken to support the CVA in any way he can, and has also undertaken to pay the Administrator's fee himself, I'm not so sure that he will do anything other than look after himself and whatever he has got left, rather honour his commitment to Stott and the club's supporters.

Oh well....

[Four Of Clubs]

...this PMs NL offerings - I've included all of the Vase ties:-

NB quite a few rained off in the West this AM so best check before travelling

FA Vase 4th Round
1 Dunstable Town v Willand Rovers
2 Bloxwich United v Torpoint Athletic
3 Leverstock Green v Bemerton Heath Harlequins
4 Gresley P St Neots Town
5 Norton & Stockton Ancients v Kings Lynn Town
6 Holbrook Sports P Lancing
7 Poole Town v St Ives Town
8 Bitton AFC v Coalville Town
9 Bodmin Town v Stansted
10 Long Buckby v Ashington
11 Herne Bay v Whitley Bay
12 Guildford City v Leiston
13 Cadbury Heath v Spennymoor Town
14 Staveley Miners Welfare v Rye United
15 Runcorn Town v Dunston UTS
16 Billingham Synthonia v Tadcaster Albion

CONFS
Basingstoke v St Albans
Braintree Town v Hampton & Richmond
Chelmsford v Bishop's Stortford
Dartford v Farnborough
Eastleigh v Dorchester
Ebbsfleet United v Bromley
Havant and W v Boreham Wood
Lewes v Staines Town
Maidenhead Utd v Thurrock
Welling v Dover
Weston-S-Mare v Woking

ISTH1S
Eastbourne Town - Godalming Town
Metropolitan Police - Fleet Town

SOUTHP
Cirencester Town v Windsor & Eton
Didcot Town v Stourbridge
Oxford City v Chesham United
SOUTH1C
Ashford Town (Middx) v Aylesbury
Beaconsfield SYCOB v Woodford United
Bedfont Town v AFC Hayes
Burnham v North Greenford United
Daventry Town P Slough Town
Leighton Town v Marlow
Uxbridge v Biggleswade Town
SOUTH1S&W
Abingdon United v Clevedon Town
Andover v Gosport Borough
Cinderford Town v Thatcham Town
Hungerford Town v Mangotsfield United

COCOP
Camberley Town v Bookham
Cove v Raynes Park Vale
Dorking v Chertsey Town
Sandhurst Town v Colliers Wood United
Wembley v Ash United
COCO1
Bedfont Sports v Sheerwater
CB Hounslow United v Farleigh Rovers (2.00 p.m.)
Cobham v Warlingham
Farnham Town v Westfield
Frimley Green v Feltham
Hartley Wintney v South Park
Hayes Gate P Eversley
Knaphill v Staines Lammas (2.00 p.m.)

HELLP
Abingdon Town v Flackwell Heath 2:15 p.m. - not sure why this is an earlier KO - probably saving money
UPDATE = according to the Ab.Town clubsite they haven't put one of the pylons back up again yet!
Ascot United v Witney United
Highworth Town v Shrivenham
Kidlington v Shortwood United
Old Woodstock Town v Bracknell Town
Reading Town v Ardley United - RTFC host the league leaders
Thame United v Pegasus Juniors
Wantage Town v Fairford Town
Wokingham & Emmbrook v Binfield - could be a big crowd - if its still on - pitch will be a tad 'damp'.
HELL1E
Farnborough Reserves v Newbury
Milton United v Henley Town
Penn & Tylers Green v Didcot Town Reserves 2:15 p.m.
Woodley Town v Holyport

WESSP
Alton Town v Blackfield & Langley
Winchester City v Hamworthy United
WESS1
Tadley & Fleet Spurs both away

[Four Of Clubs]

... here's the scores from Sat 22nd Jan then!

... generally a poor day for our 'local' NL sides - particularly at the upper end of the Pyramid:

FA Vase 4th Round
1 Dunstable Town 2 - 0 Willand Rovers
2 Bloxwich United 2 - 3 Torpoint Athletic
3 Leverstock Green 4 - 1 Bemerton Heath Harlequins
4 Gresley P St Neots Town
5 Norton & Stockton Ancients 0 - 1 Kings Lynn Town
6 Holbrook Sports P Lancing
7 Poole Town 3 - 2 St Ives Town
8 Bitton AFC 2 - 3 Coalville Town
9 Bodmin Town 1 - 4 Stansted
10 Long Buckby 3 - 2 Ashington
11 Herne Bay 1 - 2 Whitley Bay
12 Guildford City 2 - 6 Leiston – AET 2-2 @ FT : City had 2 men sent off in ET
13 Cadbury Heath 1 - 5 Spennymoor Town
14 Staveley Miners Welfare 0 - 3 Rye United
15 Runcorn Town 1 - 3 Dunston UTS
16 Billingham Synthonia 2 - 0 Tadcaster Albion

CONFS
Basingstoke 0-2 St Albans
Braintree Town 3-1 Hampton & Richmond
Chelmsford 4-1 Bishop's Stortford
Dartford 4-1 Farnborough
Eastleigh 3-0 Dorchester
Ebbsfleet United 1-2 Bromley
Havant and W 1-1 Boreham Wood
Lewes 0-1 Staines Town
Maidenhead Utd 1-3 Thurrock
Welling 0-1 Dover
Weston-S-Mare P Woking called off after pitch inspection at 13:30!

ISTH1S
Eastbourne Town 1-0 Godalming Town
Metropolitan Police 4-1 Fleet Town

SOUTHP
Cirencester Town 1-0 Windsor & Eton
Didcot Town 1-4 Stourbridge
Oxford City 0-2 Chesham United
SOUTH1C
Ashford Town (Middx) 1-2 Aylesbury
Beaconsfield SYCOB 4-2 Woodford United
Bedfont Town 3-1 AFC Hayes
Burnham 5-3 North Greenford United
Leighton Town 1-1 Marlow
Uxbridge 1-4 Biggleswade Town
SOUTH1S&W
Abingdon United 2-1 Clevedon Town
Andover 0-1 Gosport Borough
Cinderford Town P Thatcham Town called off as Thatcham arrived at the ground
Hungerford Town 0-1 Mangotsfield United

COCOP
Camberley Town 2-3 Bookham
Cove 1-2 Raynes Park Vale
Dorking 1-3 Chertsey Town
Sandhurst Town 4-1 Colliers Wood United
Wembley 1-1 Ash United
COCO1
Bedfont Sports 2-1 Sheerwater
CB Hounslow 0-4 Farleigh Rovers
Cobham 2-1 Warlingham
Farnham Town 3-0 Westfield
Frimley Green 2-0 Feltham
Hartley Wintney 1-1 South Park
Knaphill 2-0 Staines Lammas

HELLP
Abingdon Town 1-1 Flackwell Heath
Ascot United 5-1 Witney United
Highworth Town 3-2 Shrivenham att 201
Kidlington 2-1 Shortwood United
Old Woodstock Town 4-2 Bracknell Town
Reading Town 0-4 Ardley United att 48
Thame United 2-1 Pegasus Juniors
Wantage Town 5-3 Fairford Town
Wokingham & Emmbrook 2-1 Binfield att 134 - bit of a surprise 'Moles' had been on a good run.
HELL1E
Farnborough Reserves 2-4 Newbury
Milton United 1-0 Henley Town
Penn & Tylers Green 3-0 Didcot Town Reserves
Rayners Lane 2-1 Chinnor
South Kilburn P Chalfont Wasps another one called off after pitch inspection at 13:30!
Woodley Town 1-3 Holyport att 61
WESSP
Alton Town 0-1 Blackfield & Langley
Winchester City 3-2 Hamworthy United

[Elmer Park]

Terrible result for Maidenhead and they must be looking over their shoulders a bit now at the teams below them in the table.

[Four Of Clubs]

FA Vase round-up:

...shame about Guildford/Bitton/Herne Bay and Cadbury H. but there are approx 11 possibles from 16, vaguely southern clubs left in for the 5th round of the Vase.
[Ties due 12th Feb - draw tomorrow I think?]

So if the tickets are readily available to neutrals (which they sometimes are) and the prices are kept low - and the FA don't decide to get the Final bounced out of Wembley to play it somewhere else - like I think they have with the PO Finals! - then it's a good way of watching a match at the 'new' Wembley - for those that haven't been?

Expect Whitley Bay and Gresley are bookies faves - though Spennymoor are currently above the 'Bay' in the Northern league.
Poole Town (still unbeaten in their league - not that THAT did any good for Guildford) and Dunstable are decent outfits - albeit both with really cr@p grounds!
St Neots from the United Counties Premier are similarly unbeaten in their League.

Torpoint from Cornwall (just) could be good outsiders, would will probably bring decent crowds with them.

Another strong contender, because of recent higher playing standards, would be Kings Lynn currently 3rd in the UCLP - and Leiston seem to have something about them - had a good FA Cup run too recently?


Might take in a Vase tie on the 12th if there's a 'new' one in range!

[Elmer Park]

Skybet pretty much in agreement with you Four of Clubs although they have Spennymoor just as favourites and Gresley are a decent price.

Spennymoor 2/1
St Neots 3/1
Whitley Bay 9/2
Kings Lynn 8/1
Poole 12/1
Gresley 14/1

Odds go as far as 66/1 for Holbrook Sports.

[Zammo]

Breaking News....

Stuart Peace resigned as manager earlier today after six and a half years in charge.

During that time the football club has enjoyed easily it's most successful spell: liftng the FA Vase, Hellenic League Cup and Berks & Bucks Senior Trophy in 2005; the Hellenic League title for the first time in over 50 years and League Cup in 2006; and of course winning the Southern League South & West Division play-off final in 2009.

Retaining our Premier Division status last season was no mean achievement either but clearly recent results were not ideal and Stuart informed the chairman in a phone call today that he felt it was time for a change.

John Bailey:"It's a shame but Stuart has been here nearly seven years and he feels he's taken the team as far as he can. He certainly leaves with his head held high because his record at Didcot is remarkable - he's overseen far and away the most successful period in the club's 100 year history and it's quite a legacy to leave us. On behalf of the club I would like to put on record our thanks to him for everything he's done and all his hard work."

Stuart will no doubt always polarize opinions from supporters. But what is irrefutable is his astonishing record as manager here. Starting as assistant to Pete Foley, it is highly unlikely we will ever see another period of success to match the years from 2004-2009.

I hope I'm wrong, but one day I think we'll look back at Stuart's tenure and realize we really didn't know just how good we had it.

[AthleticoSpizz]

One for Adi Williams maybe?

[Tony Le Mesmer]

11 Herne Bay 1 - 2 Whitley Bay

Great local Derby there!

[paultheroyal]

Poole Town the ones to watch and at 12/1 have a dabble.

[paultheroyal]

I was reminiscing about my refereeing days tonight and thinking about some of the great non-league grounds i have officiated at.

One story that has totally passed me by is Meadow Park and Gloucester City. This was one of my regular haunts, although Gloucester fans were not always pleased to see me.

A lovely new ground has been left to ruin due to it being continually flooded. They left there in 2007 and now play out of Cirencester i believe.

This....





To this....

[AthleticoSpizz]

wow

that almost looks surreally photoshopped.............what a waste

was it built on a flood plain or something?

[paultheroyal]

Gets worse, what a mess.