Jagermesiter1871 Judging by our Iranians Instagram page he's still in Tehran so not sure when we'll first see him.
On International duty, so after that - though probably not Preston.
by Stranded » 04 Sep 2018 11:09
Jagermesiter1871 Judging by our Iranians Instagram page he's still in Tehran so not sure when we'll first see him.
by andrew1957 » 04 Sep 2018 11:33
by Hound » 04 Sep 2018 12:17
by Whore Jackie » 04 Sep 2018 12:55
Snowflake Royal This is such revisionist nonsense.
Gunter's only played one game this season and half our fans have always thought he was shit.
Kelly's been being slated since the start of last season.
Barrow is easily explained by fitness and injury, plus he always blew hit and cold.
Swift has been ruined by injury and only had half a good season two years ago
McShane was being called out as a liability since he got sent off in the POs
How anyone can suggest Richards has got worse is baffling, he's a kid who has played a dozen games and always looked a touch out of his depth.
Clement hasn't even played yet and looking ok in a shit pre-season means nothing. Looked out of his depth last year.
The idea that Clement has ruined Meyler in a couple of months is ludicrous.
Mannone's just as bang average as he's always been
Evans barely played last year and he was virtually the only midfielder anyone wanted when we needed to shift players.
Clement has been handed an absolutely shit job, with players whose attitudes and abilities stink, that he can do very little with. He's picked up the job at the point we'd gone 18/19 games with only 1 win. He's not doing everything right, but how many managers do we need to try before some of you realise its not just the manager's fault.
Adkins got shafted by not being McDermott and having no money
Clarke was a twat who shafted himself
McDermott was shafted
Stam oxf*rd things up worse than they've been in decades.
Switching again is unlikely to help. Every time we have a manager who isn't winning people say its his fault, sack him the new guy can't do worse. Well, the new guy keeps proving those people wrong.
by leon » 04 Sep 2018 13:14
Whore JackieSnowflake Royal This is such revisionist nonsense.
Gunter's only played one game this season and half our fans have always thought he was shit.
Kelly's been being slated since the start of last season.
Barrow is easily explained by fitness and injury, plus he always blew hit and cold.
Swift has been ruined by injury and only had half a good season two years ago
McShane was being called out as a liability since he got sent off in the POs
How anyone can suggest Richards has got worse is baffling, he's a kid who has played a dozen games and always looked a touch out of his depth.
Clement hasn't even played yet and looking ok in a shit pre-season means nothing. Looked out of his depth last year.
The idea that Clement has ruined Meyler in a couple of months is ludicrous.
Mannone's just as bang average as he's always been
Evans barely played last year and he was virtually the only midfielder anyone wanted when we needed to shift players.
Clement has been handed an absolutely shit job, with players whose attitudes and abilities stink, that he can do very little with. He's picked up the job at the point we'd gone 18/19 games with only 1 win. He's not doing everything right, but how many managers do we need to try before some of you realise its not just the manager's fault.
Adkins got shafted by not being McDermott and having no money
Clarke was a twat who shafted himself
McDermott was shafted
Stam oxf*rd things up worse than they've been in decades.
Switching again is unlikely to help. Every time we have a manager who isn't winning people say its his fault, sack him the new guy can't do worse. Well, the new guy keeps proving those people wrong.
Little harsh on Richards and Clement IMO. Richards looked superb when he first came into the team. Great away at Villa and Stevenage. He was bold, adventurous and looked a decent left-back. Still young and has hardly played at all. He looks to have been told to curb his attacking tendacies and much like Shorey with England, looks a lesser player than in those initial appearances.
Thought Clement actually looked much better, when Clement played him towards the end of last season. His stamina for a young player was slightly alarming, but by many reports was excellent again in pre-season. Slightly bemused that he hasn't featured in the League for us, given how poor any of the midfield combinations have been.
by Denver Royal » 04 Sep 2018 13:28
andrew1957 As for Paul C I think he has had an impossible job and so I am not sure we can blame him too much. He inherited a demotivated squad used to losing. It sounds as though many of our purchases have been made by Gourlay and not by the manager over the last couple of seasons and so it looks like the manager has little influence over player purchases and so forth. Therefore, as the manager (whether Clement or ano) has little influence one wonders how seriously many of the older players (who in many cases are on long contracts) will take what Clement says as they will know that in all likelihood they will be here at the club longer than the manager.
by Whore Jackie » 04 Sep 2018 13:30
leonWhore JackieSnowflake Royal This is such revisionist nonsense.
Gunter's only played one game this season and half our fans have always thought he was shit.
Kelly's been being slated since the start of last season.
Barrow is easily explained by fitness and injury, plus he always blew hit and cold.
Swift has been ruined by injury and only had half a good season two years ago
McShane was being called out as a liability since he got sent off in the POs
How anyone can suggest Richards has got worse is baffling, he's a kid who has played a dozen games and always looked a touch out of his depth.
Clement hasn't even played yet and looking ok in a shit pre-season means nothing. Looked out of his depth last year.
The idea that Clement has ruined Meyler in a couple of months is ludicrous.
Mannone's just as bang average as he's always been
Evans barely played last year and he was virtually the only midfielder anyone wanted when we needed to shift players.
Clement has been handed an absolutely shit job, with players whose attitudes and abilities stink, that he can do very little with. He's picked up the job at the point we'd gone 18/19 games with only 1 win. He's not doing everything right, but how many managers do we need to try before some of you realise its not just the manager's fault.
Adkins got shafted by not being McDermott and having no money
Clarke was a twat who shafted himself
McDermott was shafted
Stam oxf*rd things up worse than they've been in decades.
Switching again is unlikely to help. Every time we have a manager who isn't winning people say its his fault, sack him the new guy can't do worse. Well, the new guy keeps proving those people wrong.
Little harsh on Richards and Clement IMO. Richards looked superb when he first came into the team. Great away at Villa and Stevenage. He was bold, adventurous and looked a decent left-back. Still young and has hardly played at all. He looks to have been told to curb his attacking tendacies and much like Shorey with England, looks a lesser player than in those initial appearances.
Thought Clement actually looked much better, when Clement played him towards the end of last season. His stamina for a young player was slightly alarming, but by many reports was excellent again in pre-season. Slightly bemused that he hasn't featured in the League for us, given how poor any of the midfield combinations have been.
Where in midfield was Clement playing Clement? (as it were)
by royalsroyalsroyals92 » 04 Sep 2018 14:16
by bagman » 04 Sep 2018 16:15
by Victor Meldrew » 04 Sep 2018 16:38
by Hound » 04 Sep 2018 16:48
by Victor Meldrew » 04 Sep 2018 16:55
Hound think as I mentioned earlier, imo its not been a case of who he has been allowed to brought in that is causing the issue, more who they couldn't ship out.
I don't have a huge amount of sympathy for the performances so far, other than the generally sh!t mentality about the place. He inherited a losing culture and hasn't been able to turn it round. Part of that imo is being stuck with the likes of Aluko and McShane, and the difficulty in banishing them from the first team (if that is actually what he wants to do)
by Coppells Lost Coat » 04 Sep 2018 17:02
Victor MeldrewHound think as I mentioned earlier, imo its not been a case of who he has been allowed to brought in that is causing the issue, more who they couldn't ship out.
I don't have a huge amount of sympathy for the performances so far, other than the generally sh!t mentality about the place. He inherited a losing culture and hasn't been able to turn it round. Part of that imo is being stuck with the likes of Aluko and McShane, and the difficulty in banishing them from the first team (if that is actually what he wants to do)
You say "stuck with....... Aluko and McShane".
He picks the team and by keeping McShane in the side as he did and playing Aluko again makes his judgement open to question regardless of how many players are on the books.
It strikes me that he is quick to drop younger players in Kelly, Richards and Ilori but not so quick when it comes to the older pros.
by John Smith » 04 Sep 2018 17:13
Coppells Lost CoatVictor MeldrewHound think as I mentioned earlier, imo its not been a case of who he has been allowed to brought in that is causing the issue, more who they couldn't ship out.
I don't have a huge amount of sympathy for the performances so far, other than the generally sh!t mentality about the place. He inherited a losing culture and hasn't been able to turn it round. Part of that imo is being stuck with the likes of Aluko and McShane, and the difficulty in banishing them from the first team (if that is actually what he wants to do)
You say "stuck with....... Aluko and McShane".
He picks the team and by keeping McShane in the side as he did and playing Aluko again makes his judgement open to question regardless of how many players are on the books.
It strikes me that he is quick to drop younger players in Kelly, Richards and Ilori but not so quick when it comes to the older pros.
I do wonder what Aluko does in training. He must absolutely nail it in front of the coaching staff. Come match time, under the bright lights he plays like he accidentally pours concrete in his books instead of warming up.
by Denver Royal » 04 Sep 2018 17:21
John Smith He probably has to play Aluko. It's not like someone with the knowledge and experience of Paul Clement is not seeing what we're seeing. There's probably additional politics. You can't exactly leave your record signing to rot in the reserves.
by Sutekh » 04 Sep 2018 17:38
Denver RoyalJohn Smith He probably has to play Aluko. It's not like someone with the knowledge and experience of Paul Clement is not seeing what we're seeing. There's probably additional politics. You can't exactly leave your record signing to rot in the reserves.
I wouldn't see much difficulty in him being on the bench and coming on for cameos. McShane would be ok on the bench. O'Shea didn't even make the bench on Sat. If he isn't even allowed to pick his own team (which would be news to me), in our dire predicament, he may as well quit now.
by Hound » 04 Sep 2018 17:55
by Snowflake Royal » 04 Sep 2018 19:14
John SmithCoppells Lost CoatVictor Meldrew
You say "stuck with....... Aluko and McShane".
He picks the team and by keeping McShane in the side as he did and playing Aluko again makes his judgement open to question regardless of how many players are on the books.
It strikes me that he is quick to drop younger players in Kelly, Richards and Ilori but not so quick when it comes to the older pros.
I do wonder what Aluko does in training. He must absolutely nail it in front of the coaching staff. Come match time, under the bright lights he plays like he accidentally pours concrete in his books instead of warming up.
He probably has to play Aluko. It's not like someone with the knowledge and experience of Paul Clement is not seeing what we're seeing. There's probably additional politics. You can't exactly leave your record signing to rot in the reserves.
by Mid Sussex Royal » 04 Sep 2018 19:19
by muirinho » 04 Sep 2018 19:40
Mid Sussex Royal There's a lot being about massive long term contracts on this thread; apart from Moore (recently) and probably Aluko who exactly?
Swift and I believe Kelly were offered extended deals a year ago which were entirely justified based on their performances during the play off season.
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