And surprise surprise Arsenal lacked any creativity after he went off. Involved in goal 1. Involved in goal 3. Involved in goal 4. I can't get my head around why he's left out so often. I really can'tbcubed wrote:Been subbedURZZZZ wrote:Ozil running the show tonight. He needs to be given more of a chance
Is it because he doesn’t usually play against a second string team and actually has to play against good players?URZZZZ wrote:And surprise surprise Arsenal lacked any creativity after he went off. Involved in goal 1. Involved in goal 3. Involved in goal 4. I can't get my head around why he's left out so often. I really can'tbcubed wrote:Been subbedURZZZZ wrote:Ozil running the show tonight. He needs to be given more of a chance
I’m not sure a midfield of Fleck, Norwood or Lundstram is as good as Lallana, Chamberlain or Keita. PersonallyHendo wrote:Is it because he doesn’t usually play against a second string team and actually has to play against good players?URZZZZ wrote:And surprise surprise Arsenal lacked any creativity after he went off. Involved in goal 1. Involved in goal 3. Involved in goal 4. I can't get my head around why he's left out so often. I really can'tbcubed wrote:
Been subbed
Although he was up against a defence of Williams, Gomez, Van Den Berg (didn’t know he moved to LiverpoolURZZZZ wrote:I’m not sure a midfield of Fleck, Norwood or Lundstram is as good as Lallana, Chamberlain or Keita. PersonallyHendo wrote:Is it because he doesn’t usually play against a second string team and actually has to play against good players?URZZZZ wrote:
And surprise surprise Arsenal lacked any creativity after he went off. Involved in goal 1. Involved in goal 3. Involved in goal 4. I can't get my head around why he's left out so often. I really can't
I get why he’s left out against midfielders like Fabinho, Kante, Fernandinho because he ends up swanning round the pitch doing nothing. But against the majority of teams in the league, he has to be an option. To leave him out of the match day squad whilst Arsenal continuously create limited chances is strange. Yesterday showed he has the technique and precision to play passes that no one else can in that squad
No, it wasn't, but you're still missing the point. Do you think any other player in the Arsenal team would have the composure that Ozil did to set up Torreira for their first goal? Or his little pass to Saka for the third? Or his backheel for AMN? He has plenty of things wrong with him, but right now, they have no link between the midfield and attackHendo wrote:Although he was up against a defence of Williams, Gomez, Van Den Berg (didn’t know he moved to LiverpoolURZZZZ wrote:I’m not sure a midfield of Fleck, Norwood or Lundstram is as good as Lallana, Chamberlain or Keita. PersonallyHendo wrote:
Is it because he doesn’t usually play against a second string team and actually has to play against good players?
I get why he’s left out against midfielders like Fabinho, Kante, Fernandinho because he ends up swanning round the pitch doing nothing. But against the majority of teams in the league, he has to be an option. To leave him out of the match day squad whilst Arsenal continuously create limited chances is strange. Yesterday showed he has the technique and precision to play passes that no one else can in that squad) and Milner.
Hardly a great defensive lineup.
Fair enough and I do agree that perhaps the Spanish league would be better suited to him. It's just I do find comments like "he's been carried all his career" and "he's awful" to be over the top (which wasn't your comments anyway)Hendo wrote:I think we’re just going to have to agree to disagree on Ozil and leave it at that.
I think he’ll get a move away, maybe to Spain or Germany and kick back on in a different league, just don’t think English football suits him.
Yeah I don’t think he’s been carried his whole career, I just don’t think he’s suited to English football.URZZZZ wrote:Fair enough and I do agree that perhaps the Spanish league would be better suited to him. It's just I do find comments like "he's been carried all his career" and "he's awful" to be over the top (which wasn't your comments anyway)Hendo wrote:I think we’re just going to have to agree to disagree on Ozil and leave it at that.
I think he’ll get a move away, maybe to Spain or Germany and kick back on in a different league, just don’t think English football suits him.
It doesnt make the abuse acceptable in any way but its beyond me why professional footballers at the highest level have social media accounts, why would they need it in their lives? If they have to have one then pay someone else to run it for them like Harry Kane does. They have the media profile and none of the personal abuse that way.URZZZZ wrote:Xhaka has come out with a statement. It doesn't matter how good/bad you are at football. It's an absolute disgrace some of the comments made to him. Who tells someone they hope their daughter gets cancer just because they're bad at football? This sort of stuff is beyond me
And it's easy to say "oh, who cares, he earns as much in a week as I do in a year etc". Whilst footballers wages are unjust, they are still humans at the end of the day and the majority will be deeply affected by reading comments such as that
I can get frustrated after a defeat and make irrational comments but comments like the above should be worth an indefinite stadium ban IMO. Just disgraceful
It's not always just social media though. For example, the Rangers fan talking to Scott Brown after their game last year mocking him about his dead sister. That's just an unavoidable situationOld Man Andrews wrote:It doesnt make the abuse acceptable in any way but its beyond me why professional footballers at the highest level have social media accounts, why would they need it in their lives? If they have to have one then pay someone else to run it for them like Harry Kane does. They have the media profile and none of the personal abuse that way.URZZZZ wrote:Xhaka has come out with a statement. It doesn't matter how good/bad you are at football. It's an absolute disgrace some of the comments made to him. Who tells someone they hope their daughter gets cancer just because they're bad at football? This sort of stuff is beyond me
And it's easy to say "oh, who cares, he earns as much in a week as I do in a year etc". Whilst footballers wages are unjust, they are still humans at the end of the day and the majority will be deeply affected by reading comments such as that
I can get frustrated after a defeat and make irrational comments but comments like the above should be worth an indefinite stadium ban IMO. Just disgraceful
I agree, it’s daft really but the reason the guys at that level do is surely because it’s good for their career and earning potential.Old Man Andrews wrote:It doesnt make the abuse acceptable in any way but its beyond me why professional footballers at the highest level have social media accounts, why would they need it in their lives? If they have to have one then pay someone else to run it for them like Harry Kane does. They have the media profile and none of the personal abuse that way.URZZZZ wrote:Xhaka has come out with a statement. It doesn't matter how good/bad you are at football. It's an absolute disgrace some of the comments made to him. Who tells someone they hope their daughter gets cancer just because they're bad at football? This sort of stuff is beyond me
And it's easy to say "oh, who cares, he earns as much in a week as I do in a year etc". Whilst footballers wages are unjust, they are still humans at the end of the day and the majority will be deeply affected by reading comments such as that
I can get frustrated after a defeat and make irrational comments but comments like the above should be worth an indefinite stadium ban IMO. Just disgraceful
It's the problem with all social media. All too easy to anonymously hide behind a screen and troll somebody but you don't know the consequences of it.Hoop Blah wrote:I agree, it’s daft really but the reason the guys at that level do is surely because it’s good for their career and earning potential.Old Man Andrews wrote:It doesnt make the abuse acceptable in any way but its beyond me why professional footballers at the highest level have social media accounts, why would they need it in their lives? If they have to have one then pay someone else to run it for them like Harry Kane does. They have the media profile and none of the personal abuse that way.URZZZZ wrote:Xhaka has come out with a statement. It doesn't matter how good/bad you are at football. It's an absolute disgrace some of the comments made to him. Who tells someone they hope their daughter gets cancer just because they're bad at football? This sort of stuff is beyond me
And it's easy to say "oh, who cares, he earns as much in a week as I do in a year etc". Whilst footballers wages are unjust, they are still humans at the end of the day and the majority will be deeply affected by reading comments such as that
I can get frustrated after a defeat and make irrational comments but comments like the above should be worth an indefinite stadium ban IMO. Just disgraceful
Because he is very good.URZZZZ wrote:Not even the fantastic Ozil is able to save Arsenal
Emery is a fraud but on the other hand, the completely clueless Arsenal fans can now shut up about their youth. Willock, Saka, Guendouzi, Chambers wouldn't look out of place in an U12 game. Absolute garbage the lot of them, I can't quite understand how anyone can rate Guendouzi
Guendouzi is terrible, why Emery doesn't play a 4-2-3-1 with Torreira, Xhaka and Ozil as the three midfielders is beyond me, it worked well for them last season at home, but he persists with Guendouzi and Willock each gameOld Man Andrews wrote:Because he is very good.URZZZZ wrote:Not even the fantastic Ozil is able to save Arsenal
Emery is a fraud but on the other hand, the completely clueless Arsenal fans can now shut up about their youth. Willock, Saka, Guendouzi, Chambers wouldn't look out of place in an U12 game. Absolute garbage the lot of them, I can't quite understand how anyone can rate Guendouzi
Ozil was the only fraud this evening, doesn't deserve to be a professional footballer.
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