This. Not a great statement, always likely to alienate the player and possibly those who are close to him. A statement should have been crafted with his knowledge, not surprised him.Snowflake Royal wrote:Moore couldn't really do anything but play injured party after that statement to be fair.
They've basically said he's a gutless money grubbing ingrate.
I mean, he is... but even I wouldn't say that in a statement.
After considerable discussions over several months between Liam Moore and Veljko Paunovic, a difficult decision has been made to appoint a new club captain. The club is going through a challenging time, both financially and on the pitch.
Liam's career has not progressed as he had hoped, and neither has the club's fortunes. Both parties agree it is time for a change and fresh start. With both the club and Liam looking at his future options elsewhere, it is not ideal for Liam to continue to lead the players, when his focus cannot be 100% on Reading FC.
We would like to join our fans in thanking Liam for all his hard work, and dedication over the years. We know he will continue to contribute his best when called upon, and be an influential figure in the squad.
Yadda yadda. I mean yeah it's fairly transparent there's a much bigger issue at play, but at least there's a degree of professionalism to the lie.
We just come across as a petty and vindicative jilted spouse with our actual statement.
Didn't Clarke stop playing roughly when we got Carroll in?The Royal Forester wrote:Just how long has things been "brewing"? Bowen wanted Moore gone before he went himself, do we know why Bowen tried to get rid? Pauno came in and kept Moore as Captain. Moore used to make statements on behalf of the players and club, but they seem to have dried up for a few months now. If the rumours are true, is the fact that Clarke has not been seen on the pitch lately, anything to do with this dispute?
Maybe, but he has been on the bench after his injury, but other forwards have been brought on (including Puscas) instead of him.SCIAG wrote:Didn't Clarke stop playing roughly when we got Carroll in?The Royal Forester wrote:Just how long has things been "brewing"? Bowen wanted Moore gone before he went himself, do we know why Bowen tried to get rid? Pauno came in and kept Moore as Captain. Moore used to make statements on behalf of the players and club, but they seem to have dried up for a few months now. If the rumours are true, is the fact that Clarke has not been seen on the pitch lately, anything to do with this dispute?
No I can't think of a time he'd have been first choice.The Royal Forester wrote:Just how long has things been "brewing"? Bowen wanted Moore gone before he went himself, do we know why Bowen tried to get rid? Pauno came in and kept Moore as Captain. Moore used to make statements on behalf of the players and club, but they seem to have dried up for a few months now. If the rumours are true, is the fact that Clarke has not been seen on the pitch lately, anything to do with this dispute?
C4YThe Royal Forester wrote:Maybe, but he has been on the bench after his injury, but other ineffectual forwards have been brought on (including Puscas) instead of him.SCIAG wrote:Didn't Clarke stop playing roughly when we got Carroll in?The Royal Forester wrote:Just how long has things been "brewing"? Bowen wanted Moore gone before he went himself, do we know why Bowen tried to get rid? Pauno came in and kept Moore as Captain. Moore used to make statements on behalf of the players and club, but they seem to have dried up for a few months now. If the rumours are true, is the fact that Clarke has not been seen on the pitch lately, anything to do with this dispute?
I'm not sure respect is what you usually give someone who has brought disharmony, failure and financial ruin.King Cnut wrote:Let’s hope it doesn’t turn into a Gunter/ McCleary situation and Moore’s shoved out to under 9s. He deserves respect for what he’s brought to the club.
Snowflake Royal wrote:I'm not sure respect is what you usually give someone who has brought disharmony, failure and financial ruin.King Cnut wrote:Let’s hope it doesn’t turn into a Gunter/ McCleary situation and Moore’s shoved out to under 9s. He deserves respect for what he’s brought to the club.
I most certainly can. We didn’t force him to take an enormous wage for 4 years. There's no way we just gave him loads more than he wanted. He negotiated that salary.Zip wrote:Snowflake Royal wrote:I'm not sure respect is what you usually give someone who has brought disharmony, failure and financial ruin.King Cnut wrote:Let’s hope it doesn’t turn into a Gunter/ McCleary situation and Moore’s shoved out to under 9s. He deserves respect for what he’s brought to the club.
You can blame Moore for many things but certainly not financial ruin. As a club Reading FC have brought that on themselves.
I assume you are having a pop at me, as it was me that said you should still support your club.Simmops wrote:Anybody still saying support the club is clueless and the reason why nothing will change.
The time for a boycott is now.
Snowflake Royal wrote:I most certainly can. We didn’t force him to take an enormous wage for 4 years. There's no way we just gave him loads more than he wanted. He negotiated that salary.Zip wrote:Snowflake Royal wrote: I'm not sure respect is what you usually give someone who has brought disharmony, failure and financial ruin.
You can blame Moore for many things but certainly not financial ruin. As a club Reading FC have brought that on themselves.
24000 posts and you are still talking cr&p.Snowflake Royal wrote:I most certainly can. We didn’t force him to take an enormous wage for 4 years. There's no way we just gave him loads more than he wanted. He negotiated that salary.Zip wrote:Snowflake Royal wrote: I'm not sure respect is what you usually give someone who has brought disharmony, failure and financial ruin.
You can blame Moore for many things but certainly not financial ruin. As a club Reading FC have brought that on themselves.
You'll notice I've never not also blamed the club management. Or said he was exclusively to blame.Zip wrote:Snowflake Royal wrote:I most certainly can. We didn’t force him to take an enormous wage for 4 years. There's no way we just gave him loads more than he wanted. He negotiated that salary.Zip wrote:
You can blame Moore for many things but certainly not financial ruin. As a club Reading FC have brought that on themselves.
Of course he did. We didn’t have to give it to him though did we?
Had we been sensibly run we would have let him go. We weren’t. Don’t blame him for getting the best deal he could.
The financial ruin was entirely self inflicted.,
But it's varied, unlike your moaning about the club not publicising youth games.Royals and Racers wrote:24000 posts and you are still talking cr&p.Snowflake Royal wrote:I most certainly can. We didn’t force him to take an enormous wage for 4 years. There's no way we just gave him loads more than he wanted. He negotiated that salary.Zip wrote:
You can blame Moore for many things but certainly not financial ruin. As a club Reading FC have brought that on themselves.
That’s good of you! I might go to my employers and ask for an extra £20k a week but I think I know what they will say. His is one of a stack of deals the club have oxf*rd up. At least we didn’t pay a huge transfer fee for Moore and he has made plenty of appearances. Look at Popa, Mannone, Aluko, Edwards, Baldock, McNulty etc. etcSnowflake Royal wrote:You'll notice I've never not also blamed the club management. Or said he was exclusively to blame.Zip wrote:Snowflake Royal wrote: I most certainly can. We didn’t force him to take an enormous wage for 4 years. There's no way we just gave him loads more than he wanted. He negotiated that salary.
Of course he did. We didn’t have to give it to him though did we?
Had we been sensibly run we would have let him go. We weren’t. Don’t blame him for getting the best deal he could.
The financial ruin was entirely self inflicted.,
Barney wrote:I assume you are having a pop at me, as it was me that said you should still support your club.Simmops wrote:Anybody still saying support the club is clueless and the reason why nothing will change.
The time for a boycott is now.
If you want to boycott. DO IT. Don't go looking for help. JUST DO IT. My preference is to pop along Wednesday and Saturday,
probably drink too much before the game, but get behind my club. You do what you want to do...just don't call me clueless.
I blame him almost entirely. His high wage that he and his agent negotiated had a knock on effect with existing squad members renegotiated contracts and with new signings. They'll all want to be within a certain range of the top earner. His relationship with the owner who referred to Moore as a "lucky charm" saw him get a ridiculous 35k per week and for what? Him to organise a coach trip to Sheffield Wednesday to butter up the supporters and to knock up multiple Instagram apology posts?Snowflake Royal wrote:I most certainly can. We didn’t force him to take an enormous wage for 4 years. There's no way we just gave him loads more than he wanted. He negotiated that salary.Zip wrote:Snowflake Royal wrote: I'm not sure respect is what you usually give someone who has brought disharmony, failure and financial ruin.
You can blame Moore for many things but certainly not financial ruin. As a club Reading FC have brought that on themselves.
U23`s are by the way NOT youth- they are AcademySnowflake Royal wrote:But it's varied, unlike your moaning about the club not publicising youth games.Royals and Racers wrote:24000 posts and you are still talking cr&p.Snowflake Royal wrote: I most certainly can. We didn’t force him to take an enormous wage for 4 years. There's no way we just gave him loads more than he wanted. He negotiated that salary.
Not a pop at you. At anybody who goes to the games.Barney wrote:I assume you are having a pop at me, as it was me that said you should still support your club.Simmops wrote:Anybody still saying support the club is clueless and the reason why nothing will change.
The time for a boycott is now.
If you want to boycott. DO IT. Don't go looking for help. JUST DO IT. My preference is to pop along Wednesday and Saturday,
probably drink too much before the game, but get behind my club. You do what you want to do...just don't call me clueless.
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