exactly. I bet there most have been around a dozen nations who have fans who think their team are in with a shout, but somehow if England's say it, it's arrogant delusion.Arch wrote:"Could win it now" is a country mile from "will win" or even "expect to win". People who put England to win in the prediction thread were largely speaking with hearts rather than minds. I don't think any of them seriously thought we were favourites. More along the lines of "why not?"
Yeah, it was a shambLOLes. They were so strung out over the pitch the Germans carved us up all to easily. Loads of space and boy did it tell that we had a fourth-choice centre-half on the pitch.PEARCEY wrote:Maguire wrote:I actually don't think we were as bad as everyone is making out.
LOL at the hysteria though
Defensively I have never seen a worse England performance over the past 40 years.
However in one respect you are right. England could have scored 6. They scored two perfectly good goals, Lampard also hit the cross-bar and was unlucky when the keeper managed to deflect his shot away from a low cross. Defoe also hit the bar but was ruled off-side...I thought he was level with the last German defender and Gerrard had a good shot tipped away.
I also thought Klose fouled Upson with his arm up against Upson's neck.
So it wasn't all bad but the defending...jeez.
Makes you laugh doesnt it?Rev Algenon Stickleback H wrote:exactly. I bet there most have been around a dozen nations who have fans who think their team are in with a shout, but somehow if England's say it, it's arrogant delusion.Arch wrote:"Could win it now" is a country mile from "will win" or even "expect to win". People who put England to win in the prediction thread were largely speaking with hearts rather than minds. I don't think any of them seriously thought we were favourites. More along the lines of "why not?"
The latest linesman fiasco aside, didn't England recently beat Germany 2-1???Ideal wrote:At this point I would like to remind everyone that Norway beat Germany not too long ago
Hence
Norway > Luxembourg > Liechtenstein > England

absolutely not.frimmers3 wrote:"You can spot a Scotsman from a mile off, and not just because of the obesity, but because of the fecking massive chips they carry round on their shoulders."
no doubt you were cheering the plucky brit mr murray today then.
I more or less said the same as you Boycey and some scottish idiot on here told me I was arrogant.boycey wrote:Makes you laugh doesnt it?Rev Algenon Stickleback H wrote:exactly. I bet there most have been around a dozen nations who have fans who think their team are in with a shout, but somehow if England's say it, it's arrogant delusion.Arch wrote:"Could win it now" is a country mile from "will win" or even "expect to win". People who put England to win in the prediction thread were largely speaking with hearts rather than minds. I don't think any of them seriously thought we were favourites. More along the lines of "why not?"
who the hell was walking round saying , yep we've got this in the bag.
Finish top and we would have had Ghana/Uruguay route to the semi.
Play some half decent football and we would have made it.
Scotland/Ireland/Wales cant understand this, they will always be that plucky little team that turns up and gives it their best shot.
You can spot a Scotsman from a mile off, and not just because of the obesity, but because of the fecking massive chips they carry round on their shoulders.
Still obsessed then?Victor Meldrew wrote:Alike Beckham before him isn't Rooney supposed to be a world star,somebody who would perform major feats at world finals when in fact like Beckham before him he is really an imposter,built up way beyond his ability by the English Press?.
Scotland h8?Silver Fox wrote:Still obsessed then?Victor Meldrew wrote:Alike Beckham before him isn't Rooney supposed to be a world star,somebody who would perform major feats at world finals when in fact like Beckham before him he is really an imposter,built up way beyond his ability by the English Press?.
BTW well done everyone for bring ing out the Scotland h8 just because England got battered, I suppose it's better than launching plastic chairs or keying BMWs
Other than being married to a reasonable looker (Rooney,not derbrain of course)I think the parallels stand up.Silver Fox wrote:Still obsessed then?Victor Meldrew wrote:Alike Beckham before him isn't Rooney supposed to be a world star,somebody who would perform major feats at world finals when in fact like Beckham before him he is really an imposter,built up way beyond his ability by the English Press?.
BTW well done everyone for bring ing out the Scotland h8 just because England got battered, I suppose it's better than launching plastic chairs or keying BMWs
I'm sorry, but you might not realise it, but the English are more often than not vilified if they are on Scottish soil. Schards has already mentioned his children having to live just outside of Glasgow. His eldest would not watch the game in a pub in Glasgow. His younger son didn't watch it and was almost certainly ripped for the result when he went to school yesterday. They have lived in Glasgow for 8 years and are still picked on for being English.bigmike wrote:under the tin
smashing up Wembley stadium You really must be an england fan being that you enjoy Living in the past![]()
as for the ordering a pint in Glasgow without getting a hostile reception.. Grow a Brain.. Anyone that orders a pint in Glasgow gets a hostile reception
The piss taking well that goes both ways If the media in england didnt hype the team up so much I would suspect the piss taking wouldnt be as bad. The majority of it is Banter.. The BBC and ITV coverage of this world cup has been laughable and so one sided.. Every game that was on they were showing England coverage at before the match, half time and full time.
Oh and before you say it.. Scotland Never even qualified ... there thats your only retourt out of the way.![]()
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LOLzRoyal Lady wrote:I'm sorry, but you might not realise it, but the English are more often than not vilified if they are on Scottish soil.
I've spent time in a few cities around Scotland, as well as some brief time in the rural areas, and we are still treated with disdain and often given a rough time in ways that are not just banter.Silver Fox wrote:LOLzRoyal Lady wrote:I'm sorry, but you might not realise it, but the English are more often than not vilified if they are on Scottish soil.
No they're not
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