Independent FootballConsultants

[SpaceCruiser]

Lets do nothing

We aren't exactly "doing nothing".

[Whore Jackie]

The club did this a couple of seasons ago. They used a management consultant company rather than El Tel though.

They still do, I believe. Performance consultants called catalyst. From their website:

We have deliberately kept quiet about the involvement of catalyst. Not because we are ashamed or embarrassed, but because we think we've got an edge.

[sucatraps]

Never, ever questioned the way the club is run, particularly as a business, but if what happens on the pitch is like a department in any other type of business, then we have issues to address in this area. The department manager ie:SC has issues, (potentially/possibly even considering his own future) poor performance of some players and outgunned by other clubs. Ask yourselves what wouldn't you do to safeguard the business of being a successful football team and club? Not considering all options is deriliction of duty, but some HNA posters it seems, would question the type, quality and colour of a rope thrown to them when drowning!

[Vision]

"drowning"......"hellish"........

Cheer up mate its nearly Christmas.

[Dirk Gently]

But the whole point is that managing a football team has to be a reflection of an individual manager and his own personal style and approach to it. Being a successful football manager is not like running a business - it's more artistry than science and established technique.

Start tinkering with this or bringing in other "advisers" who will have a different style or approach is almost guaranteed to disrupt things completely.

So the club, from top to bottom, either has to back SC or sack him - there's no middle ground of foisting on him external consultants to look at the way he's doing things. That's just not appropriate to football management.

[RoyalBlue]

But the whole point is that managing a football team has to be a reflection of an individual manager and his own personal style and approach to it. Being a successful football manager is not like running a business - it's more artistry than science and established technique.

Start tinkering with this or bringing in other "advisers" who will have a different style or approach is almost guaranteed to disrupt things completely.

So the club, from top to bottom, either has to back SC or sack him - there's no middle ground of foisting on him external consultants to look at the way he's doing things. That's just not appropriate to football management.

Being a successful football manager does have a lot to do with good people management though.

I agree you don't want anyone coming in and telling him who to pick, who to play where etc. However, we pay some independent consultants to mentor our people managers. They don't tell them what to do, although will offer advice if asked. They do however pose questions that make our managers think about what they do and how they do it. Most people feel there is a great deal of value to be had from this because sometimes they are just too close to a problem to either see it and/or identify the root cause, let alone come up with a solution. Someone who is independent and able to look in from a distance can often help them obtain that vision.

That is, of course, not to say that Steve Coppell doesn't already have a mentor(s) (Sir Alex?), just as he used to (and maybe still does) act as a mentor for Alan Pardew.

[westendgirl]

Being a successful football manager does have a lot to do with good people management though.

I agree you don't want anyone coming in and telling him who to pick, who to play where etc. However, we pay some independent consultants to mentor our people managers. They don't tell them what to do, although will offer advice if asked. They do however pose questions that make our managers think about what they do and how they do it. Most people feel there is a great deal of value to be had from this because sometimes they are just too close to a problem to either see it and/or identify the root cause, let alone come up with a solution. Someone who is independent and able to look in from a distance can often help them obtain that vision.

That is, of course, not to say that Steve Coppell doesn't already have a mentor(s) (Sir Alex?), just as he used to (and maybe still does) act as a mentor for Alan Pardew.

As I understand it that is exactly what Catalyst have been doing for the past 3 seasons.

[RoyalBlue]

Being a successful football manager does have a lot to do with good people management though.

I agree you don't want anyone coming in and telling him who to pick, who to play where etc. However, we pay some independent consultants to mentor our people managers. They don't tell them what to do, although will offer advice if asked. They do however pose questions that make our managers think about what they do and how they do it. Most people feel there is a great deal of value to be had from this because sometimes they are just too close to a problem to either see it and/or identify the root cause, let alone come up with a solution. Someone who is independent and able to look in from a distance can often help them obtain that vision.

That is, of course, not to say that Steve Coppell doesn't already have a mentor(s) (Sir Alex?), just as he used to (and maybe still does) act as a mentor for Alan Pardew.

As I understand it that is exactly what Catalyst have been doing for the past 3 seasons.

Forgot to mention that there comes a time when consultants get to know your organisation/people too well and lose the edge that comes from being slightly detached with a more open minded view. At that time it's often beneficial to change them!