iirc, there's a pretty comprehensive list of what substances are banned and where the banned substances can be found. The only possibly controversy is a different formulation (|cf Scot skier and the stereoisomer(.blade 1 wrote:Think its pretty harsh really.
How long were davids and mutu banned for for taking proper drugs?
This time your man goes in for a pack of tunes and could get banned for 2 years.
It probably means we need to buy a new keeper and have even less chance of keeping our better players.
It's been tried in our back four often enough.papereyes wrote: Stupidity and ignorance can never be used as a defence.
You can't give different punishments to players who play in different positions.The Real Sandhurst Royal wrote:How could a drug enhance a goalkeepers performance especialy when it is Paddy Kenny.
A bit harsh on a player that has always taken a bit of stick from the RFC fans.
I do think the governing bodies in sport need to start being able to differentiate between cheating and having a trace of a drug in your system through a medication etc. They are not the same and shouldn't be treated as such.(.)Boobies(.) wrote:The FA have accepted the drug wasn't to enhance performance, so this 9 month ban seems very unfair indeed.
No it doesn't. He took a banned substance through his own stupidity, and punishments like this need to be handed out so as to try and prevent others being stupid. He wants to be a professional sportsman and take the riches that comes with it so he also has to take the punishment when he breaks the rules.(.)Boobies(.) wrote:The FA have accepted the drug wasn't to enhance performance, so this 9 month ban seems very unfair indeed.
Why exactly is there a need to stop sportsmen accidentally taking tiny quantities of drugs that'll make no difference whatsoever?Wycombe Royal wrote:He took a banned substance through his own stupidity, and punishments like this need to be handed out so as to try and prevent others being stupid..(.)Boobies(.) wrote:The FA have accepted the drug wasn't to enhance performance, so this 9 month ban seems very unfair indeed.
Because it provides an excuse to those who are taking it intentionally which they can use to argue their case.Rev Algenon Stickleback H wrote:Why exactly is there a need to stop sportsmen accidentally taking tiny quantities of drugs that'll make no difference whatsoever?Wycombe Royal wrote:He took a banned substance through his own stupidity, and punishments like this need to be handed out so as to try and prevent others being stupid..(.)Boobies(.) wrote:The FA have accepted the drug wasn't to enhance performance, so this 9 month ban seems very unfair indeed.
The masking agents and processes for clearing drugs from the systems are just as advanced as the testing though aren't they?ZacNaloen wrote:With todays medical technology it's possible to determine just how much someone has had, for how long etc.
You aren't going to get an illicit high of any sort with the quantities detectable following use in medication. Simple as.
If you detect trace amounts, check their story, do more advanced tests to determine the amount taken (which would corroborate any story) and then if not guilty charge a fine to the value of the cost of the tests and tell them not be so stupid, if guilty of abuse roll out the heavy punishments.
Or alternatively just ban the taking of these drugs completely.ZacNaloen wrote:With todays medical technology it's possible to determine just how much someone has had, for how long etc.
You aren't going to get an illicit high of any sort with the quantities detectable following use in medication. Simple as.
If you detect trace amounts, check their story, do more advanced tests to determine the amount taken (which would corroborate any story) and then if not guilty charge a fine to the value of the cost of the tests and tell them not be so stupid, if guilty of abuse roll out the heavy punishments.
I am still curious how a goalkeeper or whatever sportsman is going to perform better from cannabis.Hoop Blah wrote:The masking agents and processes for clearing drugs from the systems are just as advanced as the testing though aren't they?ZacNaloen wrote:With todays medical technology it's possible to determine just how much someone has had, for how long etc.
You aren't going to get an illicit high of any sort with the quantities detectable following use in medication. Simple as.
If you detect trace amounts, check their story, do more advanced tests to determine the amount taken (which would corroborate any story) and then if not guilty charge a fine to the value of the cost of the tests and tell them not be so stupid, if guilty of abuse roll out the heavy punishments.
Once you start allowing certain levels you just make it a lot harder to enforce.
who is his replacement as goalie?blade 1 wrote:It is pretty harsh seeing as it could well cost him his future at united. (being out of contract at the end of the season.)
Davids got 4 months for taking a proper performance enhancing drug. Bednar got caught buying coke and got three months. So comparatively it seems unfair. But he must have known the rules and known he had to get it through the club doctor.
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