Palace goal wrongly disallowed

[Maguire]

lolz@ suggesting Bristol City "cheated".

Of course they didn't. Emotive language thrown about to try and make a point.

[Wycombe Royal]

So if a penalty is awarded for something that didn't happen and it is obvious to all concerned should the team deliberately miss the penalty?

[cmonurz]

The referees are the authority and their decision on the pitch should always be the final say in the matter.

Palace said it was a goal, and the ref told them to bugger off. What if Bristol City had said it was a goal? Other than it being disadvantageous to them to say so, it's the same situation - players and managers influencing referees' decisions, which should not happen either way.

[Deathy]

So if a penalty is awarded for something that didn't happen and it is obvious to all concerned should the team deliberately miss the penalty?

ISTR Fowler did once.

[chilipepper91]

So if a penalty is awarded for something that didn't happen and it is obvious to all concerned should the team deliberately miss the penalty?

ISTR Fowler did once.

Not sure he missed deliberately, but either way it failed coz mcManaman netted the rebound

[Deathy]

So if a penalty is awarded for something that didn't happen and it is obvious to all concerned should the team deliberately miss the penalty?

ISTR Fowler did once.

Not sure he missed deliberately, but either way it failed coz mcManaman netted the rebound

I seem to remember Fowler pleeding with a ref that it was not a fowl, and then taking the penalty himself and it went straight to the keeper. Anyone?

[T.R.O.L.I.]

Just watched the Football League show from last night. Warnock was asked directly "So if it had happened in your favour would you hold your hands up and admit that it should have been a goal" and promptly ignored the question and bleated on about Watford v Reading instead.

Afraid of admitting that you'd have done the same as Bristol City, Neil?

[T.R.O.L.I.]

ISTR Fowler did once.

Not sure he missed deliberately, but either way it failed coz mcManaman netted the rebound

I seem to remember Fowler pleeding with a ref that it was not a fowl, and then taking the penalty himself and it went straight to the keeper. Anyone?

AT Highbury when he was "fouled" by David Seaman. Got up and told the ref it wasn't a pen but the ref wasn't having any of it. As has been said, he took the pen himself and I think the rest was as chilipepper says.

[TBM]

In the clip you can see two Brizzle players talking to officials too. If they are saying it wasn't a goal. They should be ashamed.

But what if they, like the officials, thought it wasn't a goal either?!?

[The whole year inn]

So if a penalty is awarded for something that didn't happen and it is obvious to all concerned should the team deliberately miss the penalty?

ISTR Fowler did once.

Not sure he missed deliberately, but either way it failed coz mcManaman netted the rebound

think it was our friend McAteer who netted the rebound...

[Deathy]

AT Highbury when he was "fouled" by David Seaman. Got up and told the ref it wasn't a pen but the ref wasn't having any of it. As has been said, he took the pen himself and I think the rest was as chilipepper says.

That's it. I don't recall thickshit McManaman scoring though.

[rg6royal]

I had to LOL when i see this. Reminded me of Readings phantom goal at Watford, even though that wasn't actually a goal!

[TBM]

AT Highbury when he was "fouled" by David Seaman. Got up and told the ref it wasn't a pen but the ref wasn't having any of it. As has been said, he took the pen himself and I think the rest was as chilipepper says.

That's it. I don't recall thickshit McManaman scoring though.

That year, he also won a UEFA Fair Play award for admitting that he had not been fouled by, Arsenal goalkeeper, David Seaman at Highbury after a penalty had been given.[13] After unsuccessfully trying to convince the referee to change his decision about the penalty Fowler took it tamely and Seaman saved. However, Seaman failed to hold on to the ball and Jason McAteer scored from the rebound.[14] Many people wrongly believe that Fowler deliberately took the penalty kick poorly for reasons of fair play. However, he later stated that "I tried to score. I never missed on purpose. It just happened, it was a bad penalty."[15]

[Ian Royal]

In the clip you can see two Brizzle players talking to officials too. If they are saying it wasn't a goal. They should be ashamed.

But what if they, like the officials, thought it wasn't a goal either?!?

Only they will know if that's the case, but if they genuinely thought it wasn't a goal then obviously there is no shame. Other than the usual for barracking an official.

[floyd__streete]

lolz@ suggesting Bristol City "cheated".

Of course they didn't. Emotive language thrown about to try and make a point.

+1

[handbags_harris]

I really don't see what the argument is to be honest. If City were informed that a foul had been committed then Warnock's lot would have been told this as well. There can be no excuse for teams taking the law into their own hands and allowing the opposition to score when informed of a decision like that. Somebody mentioned earlier that a goal kick had clearly been given and that City players were saying to the referee and linesman it was a goal kick. How does he know? Was he there? Can he lip-read through the side of someone's head? The free kick would probably have been taken like a goal kick anyway.

Quite frankly the way I see it is that City were apparently informed that a foul had been committed and, rightly so imo, played on at 0-0. Both sets of players would have known what the decision was as it is a referee's duty to inform players what has been decided - free kick or goal kick - because the rules for restarting play are different. The referee would have stated a reason for not giving a goal there and then because different infringements carry different restart rules. City were told "foul", therefore free kick. Palace would have known this as well.

In any event, EVERYBODY who watches or plays football will have heard the phrase "the referee's decision is final". We are all taught that this stands whether they are right or wrong. We, quite frankly, cannot end up have situations where "the referee's decision is final (when it suits us)" as imo this would bring the game into farce. It would set a dangerous precedent if, in situations like this, players started taking the laws into their own hands.

[Baines]

Massive lol @ Warnock. He's spent his managerial career sending out teams which try to win games by niggling and cheating. It's hard not to be drawn to the wise words of Hoddle: Maybe the karma is working from another lifetime.

We can only hope that this game proves crucial in determining Palace's finishing position this year.

[wickedwhispers]

I personally think it should be replayed. Just like the Watford v Reading game last season.

[Victor Meldrew]

AT Highbury when he was "fouled" by David Seaman. Got up and told the ref it wasn't a pen but the ref wasn't having any of it. As has been said, he took the pen himself and I think the rest was as chilipepper says.

That's it. I don't recall thickshit McManaman scoring though.

What a quaint turn of phrase about one of the brighter players in an occupation not given to much brightness.

[weybridgewanderer]

in the liverpool game yesterday the ball clearly hit a tottenham player on the arm nd the referee never gave a penalty

The tottenham players didn't say "hey ref, give them the penalty".

What is the difference between that incident and this one? Why are bristol cheats?

Poor decisions happen in football but you play to the whistle, the refs decision is final