LOLiverpooLOL - Next Season

[Sutekh]

Another pathetic, spineless performance from the ‘pool. There’ll be more of the same next Tuesday after the opening 5 minutes of bluster ‘cos it’s at Anfield.

Mind you PSG are nowhere near the same as last season based on that dreadful showing either, still more than enough to overcome loSt’s tripe though.

[Royal Rother]

Another pathetic, spineless performance from the ‘pool. There’ll be more of the same next Tuesday after the opening 5 minutes of bluster ‘cos it’s at Anfield.

Mind you PSG are nowhere near the same as last season based on that dreadful showing either, still more than enough to overcome loSt’s tripe though.

You thought PSG were “dreadful” last night?

They missed some gilt-edged chances (ok, their finishing wasn’t great) and had 2 clear pens not given, so the scoreline could quite easily have been 6-0.

[Sutekh]

Another pathetic, spineless performance from the ‘pool. There’ll be more of the same next Tuesday after the opening 5 minutes of bluster ‘cos it’s at Anfield.

Mind you PSG are nowhere near the same as last season based on that dreadful showing either, still more than enough to overcome loSt’s tripe though.

You thought PSG were “dreadful” last night?

They missed some gilt-edged chances (ok, their finishing wasn’t great) and had 2 clear pens not given, so the scoreline could quite easily have been 6-0.

Yes, compared to the way they ripped a much more effective Liverpool “a new one” last season I thought PSG were some way off what they were then. Says something for today’s “Liverpool” that PSG still should have won by 5 or 6 though.

Perhaps poor would have been a better word than dreadful but imo just think they were off the mark - but then the way Liverpool seemed to set up (which, to me, seemed be “let’s just try and keep the inevitable defeat to something manageable”) really meant PSG didn’t have to step up much.

[Royal Rother]

Nah, not having "poor" either. Not clinical enough in front of goal is just about the only criticism that would be fair imo.

FWIW Carragher said PSG were "out of this world" last night and that the biggest compliment he could pay them was that it was like watching Pep's Barcelona.

[Sanguine]

Nah, not having "poor" either. Not clinical enough in front of goal is just about the only criticism that would be fair imo.

FWIW Carragher said PSG were "out of this world" last night and that the biggest compliment he could pay them was that it was like watching Pep's Barcelona.

Not sure I've ever watched a team where to a man they looked so comfortable on the ball. Was like a computer game at times.

[BRO_BOT]

[katweslowski]

I watched about 50 minutes of the game in various stages last night. There was a short spell where Liverpool were playing better and had some chances and shots at goal.

But overall, PSG just looked a class above and completely over-powered Liverpool.

I read on another forum a big Liverpool thread and their fans are just frothing about it. They say they don't recognise their team, don't like seeing Salah on the bench, don't think Slot will be sacked, have no idea on what their strongest team are, are upset that PSG managed to push their league games around to get more rest, etc.

That last point - my friend also was upset about this. I pointed out that big 4 clubs always want things their way, and they should just stop their bitching as even if they were allowed 15 players, they still would have lost the game.

[BRO_BOT]

[Sutekh]

Apparently there’s a “Slot out” petition amongst Liverpool fans currently standing in excess of 3 million signatures.

[BRO_BOT]

sLOLt is a magician; he's turned half a billion into an absolute pile of shit!

[Orion1871]

sLOLt is a magician; he's turned half a billion into an absolute pile of shit!

Bit harsh. They should give him another half a billion just to make sure.

[Sutekh]

sLOLt is a magician; he's turned half a billion into an absolute pile of shit!

Bit harsh. They should give him another half a billion just to make sure.

And they no doubt will in the summer

However, can’t help but think there’s something strange going on at the club.

First you institute a disastrous transfer window featuring such bright ideas as buying in two wing backs, when the club didn’t (and still doesn’t) use that system plus breaking the British transfer record for a permacrock probably made of balsa wood.

And then to finish it all off you persist with a manager who appears to have upset the players and is now on his way to succeed in turning the Liverpool fans against the club.

Can anyone make any sense out of any of it?

[BRO_BOT]

sLOLt is a magician; he's turned half a billion into an absolute pile of shit!

Bit harsh. They should give him another half a billion just to make sure.

And they no doubt will in the summer

However, can’t help but think there’s something strange going on at the club.

First you institute a disastrous transfer window featuring such bright ideas as buying in two wing backs, when the club didn’t (and still doesn’t) use that system plus breaking the British transfer record for a permacrock probably made of balsa wood.

And then to finish it all off you persist with a manager who appears to have upset the players and is now on his way to succeed in turning the Liverpool fans against the club.

Can anyone make any sense out of any of it?

Delicious, isn't it?

[South Coast Royal]

sLOLt is a magician; he's turned half a billion into an absolute pile of shit!

If only the players that cost so much money actually played every week-if they did and Liverpool were still outside the top four your in depth analysis might have some substance.

[South Coast Royal]

sLOLt is a magician; he's turned half a billion into an absolute pile of shit!

Bit harsh. They should give him another half a billion just to make sure.

And they no doubt will in the summer

However, can’t help but think there’s something strange going on at the club.

First you institute a disastrous transfer window featuring such bright ideas as buying in two wing backs, when the club didn’t (and still doesn’t) use that system plus breaking the British transfer record for a permacrock probably made of balsa wood.

And then to finish it all off you persist with a manager who appears to have upset the players and is now on his way to succeed in turning the Liverpool fans against the club.

Can anyone make any sense out of any of it?

The strangest thing to me is how "off" the midfield players have been this season, apart from Sbozo and even he is having less impact than he did mid-season.
I gather that Macca has had personal issues but he and Ryan are just shadows of what they were last season along with Gapko who seems to have no idea about the offside rule.

Last night also showed that Alisson is so important to the side, not least because of the calm that he brings, and he has been injured far too much.

The impact of Jota's death had an effect for a while but not having a settled side and the injuries to Alisson, Ekitike, Bradley, Isak and the never injured Salah plus discovering that Frimpong is as weak a tackler as Jones has led to only finishing in the top 6 which have been the ambition for Man Utd last season and Spurs and Newcastle this season but Liverpool are expected to challenge for the title every year and not just scrape a top 6 place.

The owners have stuck with Slot but their loyalty may well be stretched unless , as Reading's fans feel with Richardson, he can change the style that he has (wrongly?) tried to implement this season.

[BRO_BOT]

Bit harsh. They should give him another half a billion just to make sure.

And they no doubt will in the summer

However, can’t help but think there’s something strange going on at the club.

First you institute a disastrous transfer window featuring such bright ideas as buying in two wing backs, when the club didn’t (and still doesn’t) use that system plus breaking the British transfer record for a permacrock probably made of balsa wood.

And then to finish it all off you persist with a manager who appears to have upset the players and is now on his way to succeed in turning the Liverpool fans against the club.

Can anyone make any sense out of any of it?

The strangest thing to me is how "off" the midfield players have been this season, apart from Sbozo and even he is having less impact than he did mid-season.
I gather that Macca has had personal issues but he and Ryan are just shadows of what they were last season along with Gapko who seems to have no idea about the offside rule.

Last night also showed that Alisson is so important to the side, not least because of the calm that he brings, and he has been injured far too much.

The impact of Jota's death had an effect for a while but not having a settled side and the injuries to Alisson, Ekitike, Bradley, Isak and the never injured Salah plus discovering that Frimpong is as weak a tackler as Jones has led to only finishing in the top 6 which have been the ambition for Man Utd last season and Spurs and Newcastle this season but Liverpool are expected to challenge for the title every year and not just scrape a top 6 place.

The owners have stuck with Slot but their loyalty may well be stretched unless , as Reading's fans feel with Richardson, he can change the style that he has (wrongly?) tried to implement this season.

I genuinely thought you'd managed the head coach transition in a way that Utd had not been able to. Once you have a period of success and then a change, you start to think it's only a matter of time before the lovechild of Klopp and Ferguson walks through the door and rebuilds the death star.

I feel the same about Slot as you no doubt felt about the last couple of Utd managers i.e. you'd be delighted to see them stay at the club. I'm also guessing that as an LFC fan you are much more forgiving of Slot, much the same as I was with ETH, Amorin etc. You might be patient enough to see that they are trying to implement something, but maybe don't quite have the squad/whatevs for it. It's really difficult to assess. In the current climate, I fully expect the likes of Slot and Carrick gone by Xmas if they're not winning every game 5-nil, playing amazing football with a squad full of academy #lads from Toxteth/Gorton etc

[South Coast Royal]

And they no doubt will in the summer

However, can’t help but think there’s something strange going on at the club.

First you institute a disastrous transfer window featuring such bright ideas as buying in two wing backs, when the club didn’t (and still doesn’t) use that system plus breaking the British transfer record for a permacrock probably made of balsa wood.

And then to finish it all off you persist with a manager who appears to have upset the players and is now on his way to succeed in turning the Liverpool fans against the club.

Can anyone make any sense out of any of it?

The strangest thing to me is how "off" the midfield players have been this season, apart from Sbozo and even he is having less impact than he did mid-season.
I gather that Macca has had personal issues but he and Ryan are just shadows of what they were last season along with Gapko who seems to have no idea about the offside rule.

Last night also showed that Alisson is so important to the side, not least because of the calm that he brings, and he has been injured far too much.

The impact of Jota's death had an effect for a while but not having a settled side and the injuries to Alisson, Ekitike, Bradley, Isak and the never injured Salah plus discovering that Frimpong is as weak a tackler as Jones has led to only finishing in the top 6 which have been the ambition for Man Utd last season and Spurs and Newcastle this season but Liverpool are expected to challenge for the title every year and not just scrape a top 6 place.

The owners have stuck with Slot but their loyalty may well be stretched unless , as Reading's fans feel with Richardson, he can change the style that he has (wrongly?) tried to implement this season.

I genuinely thought you'd managed the head coach transition in a way that Utd had not been able to. Once you have a period of success and then a change, you start to think it's only a matter of time before the lovechild of Klopp and Ferguson walks through the door and rebuilds the death star.

I feel the same about Slot as you no doubt felt about the last couple of Utd managers i.e. you'd be delighted to see them stay at the club. I'm also guessing that as an LFC fan you are much more forgiving of Slot, much the same as I was with ETH, Amorin etc. You might be patient enough to see that they are trying to implement something, but maybe don't quite have the squad/whatevs for it. It's really difficult to assess. In the current climate, I fully expect the likes of Slot and Carrick gone by Xmas if they're not winning every game 5-nil, playing amazing football with a squad full of academy #lads from Toxteth/Gorton etc

It is right that Slot came in and didn't change much in that first season as there was not too much wrong.
The problem has been , as I see it, that he has also tried to change the way the team plays, i.e. less pressing and more keep ball but it hasn't worked as these players are better at high tensity football.

Presumably Slot's fear was burn out over a long season and playing a less intense game and trying to protect a lead would help to save the players . especially presumably with the hope that those players would remain fit and focussed for the latter stages of the season when the big prize games come around.

With Alonso going to Chelsea now I wonder if the club might take a punt on Iraola who has produced a team at Bournemouth that plays on the front foot and similar to Klopp's approach-he might then even be able to persuade Senesi to stay in English football as he has been possibly the standout centre back in English football this season.

As for this season it needs Bournemouth to beat City on Tuesday and Forest next weekend and Liverpool to lose against Brentford for Liverpool not to qualify for the Champs League next season.-the probability is that they will qualify but it is not a given.

The likes of Gravenberch, McAllister and Gakpo are far from being old so next season they may get back to how they were but I do expect a Wharton or a Tchouameni type to be brought in to add bite to the midfield and possibly an orthodox right-back who is not injury prone.

Although, like you , I don't like to see our respective clubs do well it is better for the Premier League as a competition if Arsenal, City, Man Utd and Liverpool all have strong teams at the same time and, as we have seen this season, strong squads as well.

[Sutekh]

He didn’t learn though did he, not being pressing and aggressive doesn’t work when nearly all the other teams are at least aggressive in attacking and Liverpool’s catalogue of injuries seems to have been worse this season than last. As a result he has stacked up a load of minor unwanted club records this season and basically he’s now toast. The passive “keep possession” idea is utterly pointless when it’s all sideways and backwards and in the defensive third as you end up always hoping for a “moment” and unsurprisingly the players favouring pressing and being active get hacked off and struggle to perform.

Think Hughes & Edwards have finally sussed this and will now look for someone who obviously plays the way like Klopp did (so Alonso would never have been on the radar). Enrique would be the obvious holy grail, but he’s not likely to leave PSG at any price which is why they’ll look towards someone like Hoeness, Iraola would I think be an equally decent shout but maybe seen as still too much of a risk at the moment.

Actually think MacAllister may be sold this summer if there’s an appropriate bid. They need a couple of wingers, a DM and a backup left back and maybe a goalkeeper too if the Allison to Juve rumour is true.

Going to be another interesting close season in L4.

[Sutekh]

[South Coast Royal]

If it is to be Iraola the training will probably be more intense than they have been used to.
Semenyo has been saying today that it was the case at Bournemouth and they even had full-on training the day before a game when often that is seen as a rest day by many clubs or just a light training day.

BTW if the scousers thought that Benitez was difficult to understand they haven't heard anything yet if Iraola is the man.