Ballon d'Or 2015

[Winston Smith]

Neymar, Messi & Ronaldo make up the top 3

Suarez should be in that top 3 in place of Ronaldo imo

23 man shortlist

Sergio Aguero (Argentina/Manchester City)
Gareth Bale (Wales/Real Madrid)
Karim Benzema (France/Real Madrid)
Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/Real Madrid)
Kevin De Bruyne (Belgium/VfL Wolfsburg/Manchester City),
Eden Hazard (Belgium/Chelsea)
Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Sweden/Paris Saint-Germain),
Andres Iniesta (Spain/FC Barcelona),
Toni Kroos (Germany/Real Madrid),
Robert Lewandowski (Poland/FC Bayern Munich),
Javier Mascherano (Argentina/FC Barcelona),
Lionel Messi (Argentina/FC Barcelona),
Thomas Muller (Germany/FC Bayern Munich),
Manuel Neuer (Germany/FC Bayern Munich),
Neymar (Brazil/FC Barcelona),
Paul Pogba (France/Juventus)
Ivan Rakitic (Croatia/FC Barcelona)
Arjen Robben (Netherlands/FC Bayern Munich),
James Rodriguez (Colombia/Real Madrid),
Alexis Sanchez (Chile/Arsenal),
Luis Suarez (Uruguay/FC Barcelona),
Yaya Toure (Côte d’Ivoire/Manchester City),
Arturo Vidal (Chile/Juventus/FC Bayern Munich).

[genome]

[No Fixed Abode]

Eden Hazard (Belgium/Chelsea)

[sandman]

Neymar, Messi & Ronaldo make up the top 3

Suarez should be in that top 3 in place of Ronaldo imo

23 man shortlist

Sergio Aguero (Argentina/Manchester City)
Gareth Bale (Wales/Real Madrid)
Karim Benzema (France/Real Madrid)
Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/Real Madrid)
Kevin De Bruyne (Belgium/VfL Wolfsburg/Manchester City),
Eden Hazard (Belgium/Chelsea)
Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Sweden/Paris Saint-Germain),
Andres Iniesta (Spain/FC Barcelona),
Toni Kroos (Germany/Real Madrid),
Robert Lewandowski (Poland/FC Bayern Munich),
Javier Mascherano (Argentina/FC Barcelona),
Lionel Messi (Argentina/FC Barcelona),
Thomas Muller (Germany/FC Bayern Munich),
Manuel Neuer (Germany/FC Bayern Munich),
Neymar (Brazil/FC Barcelona),
Paul Pogba (France/Juventus)
Ivan Rakitic (Croatia/FC Barcelona)
Arjen Robben (Netherlands/FC Bayern Munich),
James Rodriguez (Colombia/Real Madrid),
Alexis Sanchez (Chile/Arsenal),
Luis Suarez (Uruguay/FC Barcelona),
Yaya Toure (Côte d’Ivoire/Manchester City),
Arturo Vidal (Chile/Juventus/FC Bayern Munich).

Iniesta should have won it in 2010 and 2012 but they gave it to the golden boy .

[LUX]

Eden Hazard (Belgium/Chelsea)

[Winston Smith]

FIFA just put this on their website, then took it down a few minutes later

[From Despair To Where?]

Didn't know Messi had a black penis.

[Pepe the Horseman]

Didn't know Messi had a black penis.

Really? It's not exactly a secret.

[TBM]

Suarez should be in that top 3 in place of Ronaldo imo

Why do you say that?

Didn't Ronaldo become the first player to score 11+ times in the group stages of the Champions League - combined with getting 57 goals in 57 games in 2015, 17 assists too.

How can you say he shouldn't be in the top 3?!

[Winston Smith]

Suarez should be in that top 3 in place of Ronaldo imo

Why do you say that?

Didn't Ronaldo become the first player to score 11+ times in the group stages of the Champions League - combined with getting 57 goals in 57 games in 2015, 17 assists too.

How can you say he shouldn't be in the top 3?!

by his own very high standards, he has been poor so far this season. scored a high number of goals against poor teams, struggled hugely against the better teams where in the past he didn't.

RM fans are running/have run out of patience with him too which, even though many are gloryboy belmonts, is a reasonable indicator of whether someone is doing well or not. He is viewed by many as someone who causes more problems than he solves and if he left they would have more of a balanced team.

doesn't mean he is a bad player, just means I don't think he should be top 3. I think Suarez has been absolutely sensational at Barcelona and would put him ahead of Ronaldo

[TBM]

Suarez should be in that top 3 in place of Ronaldo imo

Why do you say that?

Didn't Ronaldo become the first player to score 11+ times in the group stages of the Champions League - combined with getting 57 goals in 57 games in 2015, 17 assists too.

How can you say he shouldn't be in the top 3?!

by his own very high standards, he has been poor so far this season. scored a high number of goals against poor teams, struggled hugely against the better teams where in the past he didn't.

RM fans are running/have run out of patience with him too which, even though many are gloryboy belmonts, is a reasonable indicator of whether someone is doing well or not. He is viewed by many as someone who causes more problems than he solves and if he left they would have more of a balanced team.

But his achievements are still there, hence why he is deserved a top 3 spot

But personally i would love Neymar to win it

[Winston Smith]

But personally i would love Neymar to win it

Depends how you measure achievements. is it purely a personal stats based award or are you taking many other things into account? Suarez has 26 goals in 27 matches so far this season and scored at a similar rate earlier in 2015 I believe. All this while being hugely hard working and created loads for Messi & Neymar.

Probably agree on Neymar though

[No Fixed Abode]

Suarez should be in that top 3 in place of Ronaldo imo

Why do you say that?

Didn't Ronaldo become the first player to score 11+ times in the group stages of the Champions League - combined with getting 57 goals in 57 games in 2015, 17 assists too.

How can you say he shouldn't be in the top 3?!

Because Winston isn't clued up on football. See Nick Blackman thread on the team board for an example.

[Winston Smith]

Because Winston isn't clued up on football. See Nick Blackman thread on the team board for an example.

Seem to remember you announcing that getting personal is the first sign of being rattLOLed

How is your Nick Blackman shamblethon going btw? still not even backing up your own point of view?

[No Fixed Abode]

Because Winston isn't clued up on football. See Nick Blackman thread on the team board for an example.

Seem to remember you announcing that getting personal is the first sign of being rattLOLed

How is your Nick Blackman shamblethon going btw? still not even backing up your own point of view?

I've not said anything personal. You've shown everybody on here your knowledge of football isn't great.

All I said was Reading would miss Blackman's goals (this season) and they perhaps would be hovering above the relegation zone without him. You said they wouldn't miss him and if someone else was in the team instead of him they would do as well. So by that logic, Leicester wouldn't miss Vardy. Real wouldn't miss Ronaldo etc.....

So when I see a pundit saying "Aguero is out for City, it's a big loss". In future I'll think - these pundits don't have a clue what they're talking about. They won't miss Aguero's contribution to the team as someone else will come in and contribute just as well.

[Winston Smith]

There it is!

[No Fixed Abode]

There it is!

So no whining from you when Reading pick up lots of injuries as Reading can draft in a tubby Stella drinking Sunday team footballer who will perform just as well as Blackman.

[Winston Smith]

If you are not even willing to back yourself in a debate then how can you expect anyone else to take your point seriously on it?

[genome]

All aboard

[Winston Smith]