Ashley Young, over-rated?

EASTENDER MARKY · by **EASTENDER MARKY** » 23 Jan 2007 19:17

Does he just look good playing for Watford or is he really worth 9m ?

Ian Royal · by **Ian Royal** » 23 Jan 2007 19:19

He is worth about half that figure. Football has gone mad

noise · by **noise** » 23 Jan 2007 19:40

overrated? not really, overvalued? yes

EASTENDER MARKY · by **EASTENDER MARKY** » 24 Jan 2007 08:40

noise wrote:overrated? not really, overvalued? yes

Both IMO.

Top Flight · by **Top Flight** » 24 Jan 2007 08:53

I think Ashley Young is worth about Â£3Million.

Not more than that! No way is he worth more than that!

I think Villa will live to regret this move. As far as I am concerned, Young is small, weak and lightweight..... He does have some skill and flair but he is not the full package.

He hasn't set the Premier League alight and I don't think he will do it while he is playing for Villa. He was just one of the better players in the Championship!

For Â£9.5 Million, you need to be buying a player that will set the division alight and Young isn't that player. He is a Â£3million pound player. I think this might be one of the worst pieces of business Martin O'Neill has ever done!

But only time will tell!

Super_horns · by **Super_horns** » 24 Jan 2007 08:57

People say he has/was our only decent/best player....

Well I and and lot of Watford fans would disagree really as the likes of Danny Shittu and Gavin Mahon have been more consistent.

9 million is too much really (take the money ofcourse!) but Young is still a good young player with potential and I only hope Vilal give him a chance.

Barry the bird boggler · by **Barry the bird boggler** » 24 Jan 2007 08:59

9.65 million, Watford must be laughing all the way to the bank

best league in the world

just think if sky went bankrupt we could have our game back again....

Huntley & Palmer · by **Huntley & Palmer** » 24 Jan 2007 09:00

Great prospect, it's not his fault that Villa offered ridiculous money and wages as I said in the other post

Coppelled Streets · by **Coppelled Streets** » 24 Jan 2007 09:31

Very impressed with the player each time I've seem him play, but at over Â£9m? I'm not sure about that at all.

In that case, I'd place a Â£12m price tag on Doyle's head and I'd get down the market to sell him myself.

papereyes · by **papereyes** » 24 Jan 2007 11:05

Half decent, young and British. So we'll start the bidding at Â£5 million then.

I'd imagine that him and Agbonlahor would play wide with Carew in the centre.

And there's the deal that's been overlooked, imo. Potentially a fantastic signing. And, with pace and width already there and brought in, that plays to his game, doesn't it?

alad · by **alad** » 24 Jan 2007 11:23

Sounds good on paper but Agbonlahor and Young are hardly proven. Raw talent yes, but consisant players that will perform week in, week out no. Carew is a pretty poor finisher. He lives off a couple of games in the Champions League about 6 years ago.

papereyes · by **papereyes** » 24 Jan 2007 11:48

alad wrote:Sounds good on paper but Agbonlahor and Young are hardly proven. Raw talent yes, but consisant players that will perform week in, week out no. Carew is a pretty poor finisher. He lives off a couple of games in the Champions League about 6 years ago.

But, then again, Villa will have to work like that for the time being.

alad · by **alad** » 24 Jan 2007 12:00

Ideal wrote:
alad wrote:Sounds good on paper but Agbonlahor and Young are hardly proven. Raw talent yes, but consisant players that will perform week in, week out no. Carew is a pretty poor finisher. He lives off a couple of games in the Champions League about 6 years ago.
Try six weeks ago, you idiot.

His strike rate is appalling.

2002-2003 13 goals in 45 games
2003-2004 7 goals in 26 games
2004-2005 N/A
2005-2006 12 goals in 34 games
2006-2007 2 goals in 12 games

papereyes · by **papereyes** » 24 Jan 2007 12:01

alad wrote:
Ideal wrote:
alad wrote:Sounds good on paper but Agbonlahor and Young are hardly proven. Raw talent yes, but consisant players that will perform week in, week out no. Carew is a pretty poor finisher. He lives off a couple of games in the Champions League about 6 years ago.
Try six weeks ago, you idiot.
His strike rate is appalling.

2002-2003 13 goals in 45 games
2003-2004 7 goals in 26 games
2004-2005 N/A
2005-2006 12 goals in 34 games
2006-2007 2 goals in 12 games

What happened in '04-'05

Huntley & Palmer · by **Huntley & Palmer** » 24 Jan 2007 12:15

So apart from Valencia, he's been at second rate clubs. As I said on the other thread, a poor man's Kluivert

southbank1871 · by **southbank1871** » 24 Jan 2007 12:21

Huntley & Palmer wrote:So apart from Valencia, he's been at second rate clubs. As I said on the other thread, a poor man's Kluivert

Lyon and Roma?

Garry Mann · by **Garry Mann** » 24 Jan 2007 12:22

This is the only part worth looking at, and his record here is shite.

Valencia 2000-2003
Apps: 84 Goals: 20
Titles: League win 2002

AS Roma (loan) 2003-2004
Apps: 19 Goals: 5

Huntley & Palmer · by **Huntley & Palmer** » 24 Jan 2007 12:25

southbank1871 wrote:
Huntley & Palmer wrote:So apart from Valencia, he's been at second rate clubs. As I said on the other thread, a poor man's Kluivert
Lyon and Roma?

His record at Roma was pretty poor and Lyon have run the rule over a poor Ligue 1 for the last four seasons.

Huntley & Palmer · by **Huntley & Palmer** » 24 Jan 2007 12:39

What the hell has Reading got to do with anything? You stated he was 'world class' he quite clearly is not. Why did he only move from Lyon in a swap deal with Baros then? So his market value is about Â£3-5 million?

Silver Fox · by **Silver Fox** » 24 Jan 2007 12:43

If Carew's such a CL legend why has he gone to Villa?