Alcohol policy

[londinium]

Quick question.

The price of food and drink etc at the new Wembley is,in my eyes, a complete rip off and also well overpriced at the Mad Stad.

I know that if you dont want to pay the prices you dont have to buy. That said, I normally take a couple of drinks and some sweets to the game for me and the kids or take in an equally over priced but edible KFC.

As you are allowed to bring in your own food and drink even though they are sold in the ground, I was wondering what the policy on alcohol is.

In my opinion, there is no actual reason as to why it shouldnt be allowed to be brought into the stadium, I bet it is not allowed though.

Anyone know the club policy on this one?

[shadesrwrf]

In my opinion, there is no actual reason as to why it shouldnt be allowed to be brought into the stadium, I bet it is not allowed though.

Nothing to do with the club. It's illegal.

12 Under the Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc) Act 1985, the following are offences for which a person can be arrested by a police officer and conviction could result in a Banning Order being made:

12.1 Attempting to enter the Ground or being inside the Ground whilst drunk;

12.2 Being in possession of any intoxicating liquor, or bottle, can or other portable container and which could cause damage or personal injury, when entering the Ground or in a public area of the Ground from which the event can be directly viewed.

Can be found on the Official Site: Club - Madejski Stadium - Stadium Info and click on stadium regulations at the bottom of the page.

[PieEater]

12.2 Being in possession of any intoxicating liquor, or bottle, can or other portable container and which could cause damage or personal injury, when entering the Ground or in a public area of the Ground from which the event can be directly viewed.

Presumably that means my thermos flask is technically in breach of the rules.

[Rhys The Royal]

So you can enter the ground with a plastic cup of lager in your hand that you bought from home?

[Royal Lady]

12.2 Being in possession of any intoxicating liquor, or bottle, can or other portable container and which could cause damage or personal injury, when entering the Ground or in a public area of the Ground from which the event can be directly viewed.

Presumably that means my thermos flask is technically in breach of the rules.

I've never understood this. You're not allowed to bring in bottles of water, for example, unless the top is removed. You can buy bottles of drink in the concourse but they remove the top. Are they really saying that a small drinks bottle top is a potentially more damaging risk than the plastic bottle itself? Also, if being in possession of a bottle or other portable container is illegal, why do they sell them in the concourses?

[Dirk Gently]

The conditions for Wembley state that you can't bring in any food.

This puts them in breach of the DDA, since they don't sell food there which is suitable for diabetics, gluten-allergics, etc, etc.

The appropriate action to get this changed is in progress...

[weybridgewanderer]

So you can enter the ground with a plastic cup of lager in your hand that you bought from home?

what part did you not understand

Being in possession of any intoxicating liquor

[londinium]

So you can enter the ground with a plastic cup of lager in your hand that you bought from home?

what part did you not understand

Being in possession of any intoxicating liquor

Dont take the quote out of context.

The rule still does not state that you cannot take alcohol into the ground. If you read it properly, there is an 'and' part to the rule.

Therefore taking in a lager in a plastic cup is totally allowed according to this rule.

[londinium]

12.2 Being in possession of any intoxicating liquor, or bottle, can or other portable container and which could cause damage or personal injury, when entering the Ground or in a public area of the Ground from which the event can be directly viewed.

Presumably that means my thermos flask is technically in breach of the rules.

I've never understood this. You're not allowed to bring in bottles of water, for example, unless the top is removed. You can buy bottles of drink in the concourse but they remove the top. Are they really saying that a small drinks bottle top is a potentially more damaging risk than the plastic bottle itself? Also, if being in possession of a bottle or other portable container is illegal, why do they sell them in the concourses?

I think you miss the point, which is easily done until it is explained to you.

Bottle of drink full up, thrown at rival fan 20 metres away = most of the liquid flies out and fan gets hit by a light empty container.

Bottle of drink full up with top on thrown a rival fan 20 metres away = 'ouch that bloody hurt, you nearly had my eye out you scum'

[shadesrwrf]

So you can enter the ground with a plastic cup of lager in your hand that you bought from home?

what part did you not understand

Being in possession of any intoxicating liquor

Dont take the quote out of context.

The rule still does not state that you cannot take alcohol into the ground. If you read it properly, there is an 'and' part to the rule.

Therefore taking in a lager in a plastic cup is totally allowed according to this rule.

Tell you what, give it a go next season and then report back to us.

[weybridgewanderer]

12.2 Being in possession of any intoxicating liquor, or bottle, can or other portable container and which could cause damage or personal injury, when entering the Ground or in a public area of the Ground from which the event can be directly viewed.

i read this as

any intoxicating liquor

or

bottle, can or portable container which can cause personal injury

as you know you are not allowed to take a large cup of alcohol bought inside the ground to a public area of the ground from which the game can be viewed, never mind a cup which you entered the stadium with

also interesting they say "event" and not "football game" so arguably could also apply at rugby and concerts

[shadesrwrf]

The conditions for Wembley state that you can't bring in any food.

This puts them in breach of the DDA, since they don't sell food there which is suitable for diabetics, gluten-allergics, etc, etc.

The appropriate action to get this changed is in progress...

I'm very much in favour of the DDA, however whilst I can understand there might be a case to answer regarding diabetics I'm not sure I understand the problem for gluten-allergics. Surely they can cope without food for that long FFS? What next, a campaign for an halal option? Are the many theatres that have similar policies also in breach of these regulations?

[papereyes]

Presumably that means my thermos flask is technically in breach of the rules.

I've never understood this. You're not allowed to bring in bottles of water, for example, unless the top is removed. You can buy bottles of drink in the concourse but they remove the top. Are they really saying that a small drinks bottle top is a potentially more damaging risk than the plastic bottle itself? Also, if being in possession of a bottle or other portable container is illegal, why do they sell them in the concourses?

I think you miss the point, which is easily done until it is explained to you.

Bottle of drink full up, thrown at rival fan 20 metres away = most of the liquid flies out and fan gets hit by a light empty container.

Bottle of drink full up with top on thrown a rival fan 20 metres away = 'ouch that bloody hurt, you nearly had my eye out you scum'

Also, you try and throw a full bottle with the top off.

Someone's going to get wet.

[londinium]

I've never understood this. You're not allowed to bring in bottles of water, for example, unless the top is removed. You can buy bottles of drink in the concourse but they remove the top. Are they really saying that a small drinks bottle top is a potentially more damaging risk than the plastic bottle itself? Also, if being in possession of a bottle or other portable container is illegal, why do they sell them in the concourses?

I think you miss the point, which is easily done until it is explained to you.

Bottle of drink full up, thrown at rival fan 20 metres away = most of the liquid flies out and fan gets hit by a light empty container.

Bottle of drink full up with top on thrown a rival fan 20 metres away = 'ouch that bloody hurt, you nearly had my eye out you scum'

Also, you try and throw a full bottle with the top off.

Someone's going to get wet.

It is a bit silly to have that rule implimented in the North Stand though. I dont know many people who could throw a bottle of liquid over 120 metres!!!

[londinium]

what part did you not understand

Dont take the quote out of context.

The rule still does not state that you cannot take alcohol into the ground. If you read it properly, there is an 'and' part to the rule.

Therefore taking in a lager in a plastic cup is totally allowed according to this rule.

Tell you what, give it a go next season and then report back to us.

No need to be sarky, I know they will obviously stop you from entering.
I was just trying to find out, under what grounds they can do it.

Which, no one has come up with yet.

[shadesrwrf]

Dont take the quote out of context.

The rule still does not state that you cannot take alcohol into the ground. If you read it properly, there is an 'and' part to the rule.

Therefore taking in a lager in a plastic cup is totally allowed according to this rule.

Tell you what, give it a go next season and then report back to us.

No need to be sarky, I know they will obviously stop you from entering.
I was just trying to find out, under what grounds they can do it.

Which, no one has come up with yet.

Apologies for the sarcasm but can I respectfully suggest that you re-read 12.2 until you understand that it does indeed say you can't take alcohol into the ground.

[Forbury Lion]

If you freeze alcohol and take it in as a solid does that still count as a liquor?

[Behindu]

The rule about bottle tops isn't really about whether they might be thrown or not.

If you drop a plastic drinks bottle on the ground with a top on it becomes like a roller - step on it and you go flying.

If it has no top on and you step on it you just squash it.

If you have hundreds of them dropped on the ground (especially on steps) then inevitably someone is going to have a nasty accident.

As for alcohol, if you try to bring it in, whatever form of container, you will be asked to leave it outside. If you don;t then you will be asked to remain outside. Perhaps a bit draconian but I guess the rule has to be black and white - otherwise you end up with people bringing bottles of vodka to games !

And I think I'm right that the club don't necessarily have to be able to quote a rule - it's not like being arrested. It's a private place and the club can enforce whatever rules they see fit. If you don't like them then you have an option. Happily i don;t believe they actually operate in such a totalitaran way, but it's worth bearing in mind if you challenge a tango to state what rule he is using !

[The 17 Bus]

so flasks are not allowed.

[londinium]

Tell you what, give it a go next season and then report back to us.

No need to be sarky, I know they will obviously stop you from entering.
I was just trying to find out, under what grounds they can do it.

Which, no one has come up with yet.

Apologies for the sarcasm but can I respectfully suggest that you re-read 12.2 until you understand that it does indeed say you can't take alcohol into the ground.

I tell you what, you re=-read rule 12.2 until you fully understand it and then tell me that I am right.

If you read it properly you will see that to be unacceptable to be taken it the ground then it has to fullfill two criteria, hence the word 'and'.

It obviously fills criteria one, but if taken in in a plastic beaker then it does not fullfill criteria two.

Apologies accepted shades!!!!!!