by Barry the bird boggler » 16 Feb 2010 07:46
16 Feb 2010 07:46by The Real Sandhurst Royal » 16 Feb 2010 10:21
16 Feb 2010 10:21The same was said about Poll and look what happened to himThe Real Sandhurst Royal wrote:Howard Webb has a good chance of being selected to referee the final should England not make it.
Doubt it, there's a FIFA regulation in place now to avoid English refs after Jack Taylor shat himself from start to finish in the 1974 WC Final.parky wrote:Could see an englishman referee the final as long as there are no cock ups
What a f*ckin sh*t argument you always pose, whether it's a fising attempt or not. You're telling me, in this case, that for a referee to officiate well in a game he has to not be noticed? Even if he has three or four big decisions to make in a game, and gets those decisions spot on? If he has to make a big decision in a game (and every referee will have to in almost every game he officiates in), that decisions, coupled with the referee's positioning and decision making process will be scrutinised whether he's right or wrong. He has therefore, by default, been noticed. If the decisions are correct, does that still mean he has hada bad game because of the scrutiny brought upon himself by the decision he has to make?No Fixed Abode wrote:Best refs are the ones you don't notice. HW is always noticed.
No he didn't, he refereed the game well, was so calm and rose to the occasion, he managed to notice the lack of corner flags at the start of the game. Some referee's would have been nervous of the game, Jack Taylor was defiantly not one of them.bobbybottler wrote:Doubt it, there's a FIFA regulation in place now to avoid English refs after Jack Taylor shat himself from start to finish in the 1974 WC Final.parky wrote:Could see an englishman referee the final as long as there are no cock ups
I'm not reading all that.handbags_harris wrote:What a f*ckin sh*t argument you always pose, whether it's a fising attempt or not. You're telling me, in this case, that for a referee to officiate well in a game he has to not be noticed? Even if he has three or four big decisions to make in a game, and gets those decisions spot on? If he has to make a big decision in a game (and every referee will have to in almost every game he officiates in), that decisions, coupled with the referee's positioning and decision making process will be scrutinised whether he's right or wrong. He has therefore, by default, been noticed. If the decisions are correct, does that still mean he has hada bad game because of the scrutiny brought upon himself by the decision he has to make?No Fixed Abode wrote:Best refs are the ones you don't notice. HW is always noticed.
Howard Webb is regarded by many as England's best referee, and therefore has to live up to those standards set both by himself and others. He does so on a game-by-game basis, and his good games are far outweighed by his bad ones. It's certainly a much better choice than Mike Riley in 2004 (anyone remember that embarrassing decision to award an indirect free kick instead of a penalty in a Sweden game in that tournament?), or Graham Poll in 2006 (3 yellows and all that). Yeah, he made a controversial decision in 2008, awarding a crucial last minute penalty for a shirt pull, but the decision was correct. He never courts controversy, or public limelight, (unlike one of the other's I've mentioned) isn't bullied on the pitch (unlike the other I've mentioned - "Ashley, turn around, I'm talking to you! Ashley!! Ashley!!" Yellow card produced). Best choice for the job IMO.
He still didn't go any further because he was let down by Mullarkey who missed an offside for the first goal in that game.handbags_harris wrote:What a f*ckin sh*t argument you always pose, whether it's a fising attempt or not. You're telling me, in this case, that for a referee to officiate well in a game he has to not be noticed? Even if he has three or four big decisions to make in a game, and gets those decisions spot on? If he has to make a big decision in a game (and every referee will have to in almost every game he officiates in), that decisions, coupled with the referee's positioning and decision making process will be scrutinised whether he's right or wrong. He has therefore, by default, been noticed. If the decisions are correct, does that still mean he has hada bad game because of the scrutiny brought upon himself by the decision he has to make?No Fixed Abode wrote:Best refs are the ones you don't notice. HW is always noticed.
Howard Webb is regarded by many as England's best referee, and therefore has to live up to those standards set both by himself and others. He does so on a game-by-game basis, and his good games are far outweighed by his bad ones. It's certainly a much better choice than Mike Riley in 2004 (anyone remember that embarrassing decision to award an indirect free kick instead of a penalty in a Sweden game in that tournament?), or Graham Poll in 2006 (3 yellows and all that). Yeah, he made a controversial decision in 2008, awarding a crucial last minute penalty for a shirt pull, but the decision was correct. He never courts controversy, or public limelight, (unlike one of the other's I've mentioned) isn't bullied on the pitch (unlike the other I've mentioned - "Ashley, turn around, I'm talking to you! Ashley!! Ashley!!" Yellow card produced). Best choice for the job IMO.
He was abysmal.parky wrote:No he didn't, he refereed the game well, was so calm and rose to the occasion, he managed to notice the lack of corner flags at the start of the game. Some referee's would have been nervous of the game, Jack Taylor was defiantly not one of them.bobbybottler wrote:Doubt it, there's a FIFA regulation in place now to avoid English refs after Jack Taylor shat himself from start to finish in the 1974 WC Final.parky wrote:Could see an englishman referee the final as long as there are no cock ups
by Barry the bird boggler » 16 Feb 2010 14:45
16 Feb 2010 14:45Webb has done a major tournament before, and he will have done the same number as Poll after this oneBarry the bird boggler wrote:Wonder if he'll be asking Graham Poll for any advice.
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