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Possible Points Deduction - EFL Reviewing Finances
02 March 2023
By Hob Nob Anyone?
Reading could be set for another six points deduction with the Football League again reviewing Reading FC's finances for this season. It's tough to understand with Reading sticking to an incoming transfer ban enforced by the League while also being seemingly transparent with their finances. The impression is that the club have been working with the League to ensure they operate within the guidelines the League set, so it is confusing that the League are now suggesting they have failed to meet certain targets.
The League issued a short statement yesterday following wide reports of a possible points deduction being issued: "In November 2021, the EFL and Reading Football Club reached an Agreed Decision in respect of the Club's failure to comply with the League's Profit and Sustainability (P&S) Rules. As part of the decision, the Club is required to comply with the terms of a Business Plan up until the end of season 2022/23. The plan focuses on a number of financial targets with the objective of improving the Club's financial performance. The League is currently reviewing submissions from Reading to determine whether compliance has been achieved. There will be no further comment on the matter at this time."
The Royals were given a six points deduction in November 2021 after breaking financial rules, with further points deductions said to be suspended if Reading could keep to agreed expenditure. It is now being suggested that Reading have overspent again after continually posting financial losses.
Should Reading see six points removed this season it would see us drop to just six points and three places outside of the relegation zone, after Reading looked to be heading towards safety this season. Reading fans were all set for a season of mid-table nothingness but that could all change depending on the League's review.
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paultheroyal
Maybe because he didn't really have control of the ball at that point.
Only mistake the referee made was not award a yellow card. Law has changed. So unless you take a mad swipe at defenders legs, grab his shirt, pull his arm, rugby tackle him then the punishment is only a penalty kick. Not the triple punishment from a couple of years ago. If you attempt to play the ball, it will not be a red card despite through on goal.
Hendo
Maybe because he didn't really have control of the ball at that point.
Only mistake the referee made was not award a yellow card. Law has changed. So unless you take a mad swipe at defenders legs, grab his shirt, pull his arm, rugby tackle him then the punishment is only a penalty kick. Not the triple punishment from a couple of years ago. If you attempt to play the ball, it will not be a red card despite through on goal.
Yes, I was surprised it wasn't a yellow. Didn't think it was a red at all.
Thought the ref also missed a blatant yellow in the first half, when we started to break out from our box and the Blackpool player just totally blocked off whoever it was that was breaking (maybe Ince?). Made zero attempt to play the ball, just because it happens in the first 10-15 mins doesn't mean it shouldn't be a booking.
Also missed a lot of fouls on AC2.
Snowflake Royal
Only mistake the referee made was not award a yellow card. Law has changed. So unless you take a mad swipe at defenders legs, grab his shirt, pull his arm, rugby tackle him then the punishment is only a penalty kick. Not the triple punishment from a couple of years ago. If you attempt to play the ball, it will not be a red card despite through on goal.
Yes, I was surprised it wasn't a yellow. Didn't think it was a red at all.
Thought the ref also missed a blatant yellow in the first half, when we started to break out from our box and the Blackpool player just totally blocked off whoever it was that was breaking (maybe Ince?). Made zero attempt to play the ball, just because it happens in the first 10-15 mins doesn't mean it shouldn't be a booking.
Also missed a lot of fouls on AC2.
Isn't the rule its a red if it isn't a legitimate attempt to play the ball, (stopping a clear goal scoring opportunity) or has that wording since been revised?
Because one of them may have made an attempt but the other certainly didn’t, he just deliberately tangled himself Meite's legs from behind.
Snowflake Royal
By the letter of the law I am under the impression it has to be a red card the moment the referee gave a penalty, there was no genuine attempt to play the ball from my view.
Yes, that's my thoughts. Possibly not a clear goalscoring opportunity because of the other defender, but then they both seemed to foul Meite and the second could only get there because of the first fouling.
URZZZZ
I've seen a few people say this, but we certainly started set up with 5 at the back.
It was back to a start of season 5 where it was more flexible and attacking with Hoilett spending more time forward and McIntyre venturing up as well. But it only became a definite 4 once Azeez came on for Hoilett. Imo.
Well, it definitely looked 433 to me and the manager said we played 433 so I'll go with we played 433 but appreciate others may see it differently.
Yeah, was a 4-3-3. Biggest giveaway was Meite playing so far up on the right, haven’t seen anything like that all season really
YorkshireRoyal99
By the letter of the law I am under the impression it has to be a red card the moment the referee gave a penalty, there was no genuine attempt to play the ball from my view.
Yes, that's my thoughts. Possibly not a clear goalscoring opportunity because of the other defender, but then they both seemed to foul Meite and the second could only get there because of the first fouling.
Well if it was ever going to be it would be because he did deny a clear goalscoring opportunity.
Although I didn't think you could give both a penalty and red card anymore because of the "double jeopardy" rule or did that eventually get scrapped?
URZZZZ
Agreed with that. Hendrick does the ugly side of the stuff well and it’s no surprise we were so poor against Cardiff without him. He’s been our best midfielder this season by quite some distance
Was nice to see a midfielder show for the ball and constantly be on the move so was impressed with Casedei. Puts a lot less pressure on the CB’s when they actually have an option moving ahead of them as opposed to punting it to Carroll
tidus_mi2
Yes, that's my thoughts. Possibly not a clear goalscoring opportunity because of the other defender, but then they both seemed to foul Meite and the second could only get there because of the first fouling.
Well if it was ever going to be it would be because he did deny a clear goalscoring opportunity.
Although I didn't think you could give both a penalty and red card anymore because of the "double jeopardy" rule or did that eventually get scrapped?
Not quite, they changed the rule so that if you make a genuine attempt to win the ball but still commit the foul, it is only a yellow card, that rule still exists.
YorkshireRoyal99
Well if it was ever going to be it would be because he did deny a clear goalscoring opportunity.
Although I didn't think you could give both a penalty and red card anymore because of the "double jeopardy" rule or did that eventually get scrapped?
Not quite, they changed the rule so that if you make a genuine attempt to win the ball but still commit the foul, it is only a yellow card, that rule still exists.
Ah right ok. It's difficult to say really whether he made a genuine attempt to play the ball or not, Meite was slowing down and the defender was only really a yard or so behind him, it's not like he was 3/4 yards away and then just pulls him down. I think he's just gone through the back to try and get the ball, so it should have been a booking.
In terms of denying a clear goalscoring opportunity though, you could argue that it is that.
tidus_mi2
I don't know if I could predict this, I feel once we hit that magical 50pts, Ince may change up the way we approach away games and we ironically might actually start picking up away wins, as for our impressive home form, I think that will keep up but we'll probably fail to beat both Burnley and Sheffield United, think they're too far above us.
RoyalBlue
Send them mine :wink:
And that's the annoying & frustrating thing about their piss poor coverage. They could easily pay someone local a few quid to cover the games. In fact they'd probably find people willing to do it for free in an attempt to build up a reputation and eventually get the opportunity to move into sports journalism on a more professional basis.
Snowflake Royal
Yes, that's my thoughts. Possibly not a clear goalscoring opportunity because of the other defender, but then they both seemed to foul Meite and the second could only get there because of the first fouling.
Well if it was ever going to be it would be because he did deny a clear goalscoring opportunity.
Although I didn't think you could give both a penalty and red card anymore because of the "double jeopardy" rule or did that eventually get scrapped?
I may be out of date but you can. Just not if there's a genuine attempt to play the ball.
Snowflake Royal
Not quite, they changed the rule so that if you make a genuine attempt to win the ball but still commit the foul, it is only a yellow card, that rule still exists.
Ah right ok. It's difficult to say really whether he made a genuine attempt to play the ball or not, Meite was slowing down and the defender was only really a yard or so behind him, it's not like he was 3/4 yards away and then just pulls him down. I think he's just gone through the back to try and get the ball, so it should have been a booking.
In terms of denying a clear goalscoring opportunity though, you could argue that it is that.
He ran into Meite's legs from behind, no attempt to win.the ball at all.
YorkshireRoyal99
Ah right ok. It's difficult to say really whether he made a genuine attempt to play the ball or not, Meite was slowing down and the defender was only really a yard or so behind him, it's not like he was 3/4 yards away and then just pulls him down. I think he's just gone through the back to try and get the ball, so it should have been a booking.
In terms of denying a clear goalscoring opportunity though, you could argue that it is that.
He ran into Meite's legs from behind, no attempt to win.the ball at all.
It was just a tackle from behind which almost always results in a foul. I don't doubt he did try and win the ball, it's not like he was a few yards behind. It certainly wasn't as blatant as when the Sheffield Wednesday defender hauled Puscas down a couple of seasons ago.
Royals and Racers
Big test for the U21`s tomorrow(27th) when they travel to play PDL South leaders Millwall KO 1.30pm- Millwall have played 3 matches more and are 7 points clear of the 3rd placed Royals. The match is being played at Millwall`s training ground in Bromley.
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Carson
Senga
Holzman
Trialist -A
Akande
Trialist-B
Ehibhatiomhan
Scott
Okine-Peters
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Vickers
Gascombe
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Kanu
Sub Haysman might be 18 year old Khalon ex Tottenham.
One of the trialists is Geneiro Maragh who has played before for us recently.
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Boyce-Clarke
Green
Carson
Senga
Holzman
Trialist -A
Akande
Trialist-B
Ehibhatiomhan
Scott
Okine-Peters
SUBS
Collins
Vickers
Gascombe
Haysman
Kanu
Sub Haysman might be 18 year old Khalon ex Tottenham.
One of the trialists is Geneiro Maragh who has played before for us recently.
Brum Royal
Burnley's remaining 12 games (with current league position):
Blackpool (a) 23rd
Wigan (h) 24th
Hull (a) 16th
Blackburn (a) 4th
Sunderland (h) 9th
Middlesbrough (a) 3rd
Sheff Utd (h) 2nd
Reading (a) 14th
Rotherham (a) 20th
QPR (h) 18th
Bristol City (a) 13th
Cardiff (h) 21st
Potentially sticky patch from Blackburn to Sheff Utd (or even us given our home record)
Blackpool (a) 23rd
Wigan (h) 24th
Hull (a) 16th
Blackburn (a) 4th
Sunderland (h) 9th
Middlesbrough (a) 3rd
Sheff Utd (h) 2nd
Reading (a) 14th
Rotherham (a) 20th
QPR (h) 18th
Bristol City (a) 13th
Cardiff (h) 21st
Potentially sticky patch from Blackburn to Sheff Utd (or even us given our home record)
Dave the rave
Carrol was MOTM for me. Really put himself about , chipped in with a cool penalty and he is actually an effective target man. Just a shame he had no-one to support him to take advantage of his flick ons etc but that's because we do play too defensively. Always seems one rash tackle away from a yellow card mind.
Blackpool were very poor and we weren't that much better but we took our chances so can't be too unhappy. Poor game, right result, bloody freezing.
Was good to see a proper crowd again but downside of no beer at halftime as the queues were ridiculous :x
Those clappy things were oxf*rd annoying too although can't moan too much as my lad was doing it all game but the bloke in front of us should know better.
Glad of the 3 points and another move towards safety but whoever on here was talking about 6th place......not happening.
Blackpool were very poor and we weren't that much better but we took our chances so can't be too unhappy. Poor game, right result, bloody freezing.
Was good to see a proper crowd again but downside of no beer at halftime as the queues were ridiculous :x
Those clappy things were oxf*rd annoying too although can't moan too much as my lad was doing it all game but the bloke in front of us should know better.
Glad of the 3 points and another move towards safety but whoever on here was talking about 6th place......not happening.
paultheroyal
Not sure why people are struggling with a debate here. Referee deemed it to be a routine foul, it looked a routine foul, penalty, no red card, despite being through on goal. Same as you i would of expected a yellow but same time, if that incident happened on the pitch at any location would you expect a yellow, probably not.
Dirk Gently
Send them mine :wink:
And that's the annoying & frustrating thing about their piss poor coverage. They could easily pay someone local a few quid to cover the games. In fact they'd probably find people willing to do it for free in an attempt to build up a reputation and eventually get the opportunity to move into sports journalism on a more professional basis.
Don't think it's lack of resource - certainly with the men's game it's lack of demand. I saw some stats a few years ago, and the page clicks for the two Manchester Clubs, Chelsea, Liverpool & Arsenal was about 88% of all clicks. Then if you added in Spurs, Real, Barca, Celtic & Rangers that amounted to about 95% of all clicks. All the rest of the league were fighting over the remaining 5% of traffic.
So they'd just say they're catering to what the audience wants, ignoring that this means there's nothing else even if the audience did want it.
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